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Old 07-27-2009, 11:47 PM
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x3 on the BBB. That royally pisses me off just reading it. effing stealerships.
 
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Old 07-28-2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by antichrist
Or you could just install the filter properly.

As for the dealer, a professional mechanic should know better than to use a filter wrench to install a filter. X2 with filing a complain with the BBB, that's the only way I was able to get anything out of Rock Auto.
What was your deal with Rock Auto? I had a bad experience with them too.
 
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:01 PM
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Francis and PDX Rovers now PDX British are a con game. I have my P-38 in a local shop after my heater core o rings blew out for the third time. The first time francis told me had repaired it and then it happened again. This time the rig was towed by Francis to his Portland shop. I got it back two weeks later with an Alleged new heater core. BS! My heater/cooling system guy here in Salem is working right now to repair and replace the crap PDX Rovers did.


The o rings had blown again so the new repair guy calls me to take a look at what he found under there. An aftermarket heater core, no O-rings period, just a massive amount of silicone, tape and plastic ties. The metal heating lines had been cut and put back together with rubber glue.


Backing up a bit, I took Francis to court a few years ago and won a $4000 judgment against him. He had my rig in for repairs, told me it needed a new thermostat, then it was a new water pump, then a new radiator and finally after all of that, a new head gasket!! Found out they had put 3000+ miles on my rig driving it around Portland and to Bend and back all the while telling me they were working on it but it had not yet been repaired. Stupid me!! I go to court and win and collect my money by going to the bank with the court order.


At this point I order another motor, file paperwork against PDX Rovers again so they will pay for my engine R&R. I did not blow the motor up so the was no reason for me to pay. In the meantime I found a diary that the son of Francis had kept. Still have copies of it. Interesting reading to say the least.


We go to court, Francis is there and then tells me in front of the judge that we worked it out, he would pay for the replacement free of charge. Oh, and a cop comes in demanding the book I was going to present as evidence against Francis and PDX. Little did they know I had already made copies. Look story short, the new engine get delivered to PDX Rovers and three weeks later I get a call that it is done.


I go to pick it with a family member and I told her to get into it and meet me elsewhere. I did so because I knew that some kind of scam was going to be played. I was correct, I was presented with a $2000 bill for the engine R&R. I told the office manager that it was to be free according to an agreement made in court before a judge. I was told too bad. take them to court again. I called the cops although the truck was gone already, they came in, looked at my papers and off I went.


DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY!!! By the way, he also liked to blame his wife for all of his problems rather that himself.
 
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:02 PM
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Yeah oil filters go on hand tight only. I go hand tight and then give it a half turn for good measure.

My brother lives in Forest Grove, and I think he tried to have a long water pump bolt that snapped off fixed there. Guy said oh yeah we can fix it, but we'd have to do a complete engine rebuild to the tune of like 3200.00.... My brother said ummm no thanks, went home and was able to remove the water pump and repair the issue.
 
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:26 AM
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Who the f@#k uses wrenches to tighten filters? Well, I know the answer, mechanics who are afraid of complaints

I always do mine hand tight and the only time I've had a leak is when I was doing an experiment to see how lightly I could thread it in and still not leak. Even if you stop waaaay before you normally would (about a half turn from first sign of gasket contact), it will still just dribble a bit. A normal tightening? No way in hell its coming off.

I'm sure someone has a story where someone had one come off, but... seems unlikely.
 
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tornado_735
x3 on the BBB. That royally pisses me off just reading it. effing stealerships.
I just don't understand why dealerships insist on being ******** to their customers. You can get a lot more money, over time, from loyal customers who want to deal with you than by screwing people over one time. And then really, the auto maker kind of gets screwed to because no one will buy their cars if their dealers are all crooks.

I guess they get away with it because there are enough people with lots of money and no sense that love the smell of new leather seats and accept astronomical repair bills as the ticket to ride.
 
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