Discovery II Talk about the Land Rover Discovery II within.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Gear Box front output flange

Old Dec 20, 2014 | 12:06 PM
  #1  
diggerod's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 70
Likes: 1
Default Gear Box front output flange

04' gear box, should there be any play on the front output flange where it enters into the gear box? I'm hearing some kind of chattering noise, that I thought was coming from my front passenger side brake caliber. But after checking around, if I grab my front drive shaft by the rear where it enters into the gear box it is a little sloppy, not the u-joint but the actual flange. Almost kinda sounds like a bearing starting to go bad.
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 12:09 PM
  #2  
diggerod's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 70
Likes: 1
Default

Also this only happens when I let off on the gas and start to slow down. It does not make the noise when driving around.
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 01:29 PM
  #3  
dusty1's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,794
Likes: 211
From: dallas texas
Default

it should not be that sloppy and that decel. noise is indicative of bearing failure. i think you have pinpointed the issue
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 02:20 PM
  #4  
diggerod's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 70
Likes: 1
Default

Is that something the average mechanic can do, I need to replace front u-joints anyways?
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 02:27 PM
  #5  
dusty1's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,794
Likes: 211
From: dallas texas
Default

It can be a bear to remove, but doable. I didn't have a lot of trouble, but I had the whole case out.
Any mechanic should be up to the task
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 05:28 PM
  #6  
OffroadFrance's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,845
Likes: 368
From: Near Bordeaux, France
Default

Dusty is right. RAVE page 41-6 shows the front flange and shaft components and the offending bearing.

It's best to drop the box but it may be able to be done insitu, don't know. Any good 4x4 mechanic should be able to replace the front bearing on a LT230 but probably better at an LR garage rather than a 'do it all' workshop.

Does sound like a bearing if it's noisy on the overrun. Don't leave it too long in case it breaks up in place and then your troubles will be multiplied tenfold.
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 08:38 PM
  #7  
Lowest Bidder's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 155
Likes: 14
Default

A new bearing has a very slight play. Like you can't see it move, but you can feel it move in your hand if you try to wiggle the drive shaft near the flange. It's very slight, almost not perceptible. It can be replaced with the transfer case in place. But you need the right tools. A garage with jacks, so you can get under the truck and work in a safe manner.

Remove the drive shaft first. Having the special tool is nice but it can be done with just two 9/16 wrenches. The slimmer the wrench the better. Then remove the nut holding the output flange in place. 30 mm socket I think. Then Pry off the seal and discard. Then using a strong pair of snap ring pliers, remove the snap ring keeping the bearing in place. You need good strong snap ring pliers, the snap ring is pretty thick. Once the snap ring is off, place the flange back on the shaft and put the nit back without tightening it. Fit a slide hammer puller with a suitable attachment on the flange. There's plenty of space where the driveshaft used to be, but be careful not to scrape your knuckles on the catalytic converter. With the right setup, the bearing is quite easy to get out. Once it's on your bench, use a puller to remove the bearing from the shaft.

Once the bearing is off, it's the reverse procedure to put a new one back in. Use a brass pin and a hammer to gently drive the bearing back on the shaft, and then the bearing and shaft back in the transfer case. put the snap ring back in place, then use the old seal to drive the new seal in. Clean the flange and put a light coat of oil on it, then put it in on the shaft. Tighten the nut, install the driveshaft, and you're done.
 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 08:44 PM
  #8  
Lowest Bidder's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 155
Likes: 14
Default





 
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2014 | 08:47 PM
  #9  
Lowest Bidder's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 155
Likes: 14
Default

Oh and I forgot, the seal is there to keep the oil in the transfer case. When you remove the seal, the oil pours in your hair, unless you drop the oil first. Don't ask me how I know...
 
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2014 | 03:51 AM
  #10  
OffroadFrance's Avatar
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 5,845
Likes: 368
From: Near Bordeaux, France
Default

Originally Posted by Lowest Bidder
Oh and I forgot, the seal is there to keep the oil in the transfer case. When you remove the seal, the oil pours in your hair, unless you drop the oil first. Don't ask me how I know...
Like it, cheap Brylcreem

Résultats Google Recherche d'images correspondant à http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7qixzNmiT1qzsrxjo1_1280.jpg
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 PM.