General Grabber AT2 vs. BFG All-Terrain T/A KO
What are your thoughts on each of these brands? So far I've only searched TireRack.com, but are a set of 5 (245/75-16) BFG's worth the extra $130 over the Grabbers? These will be mainly for city driving with some trail use.
-D2G
-D2G
I believe so because of the extra strength in the side walls, the fact that you just can't wear them out and I think the numbers speak for them selves. As you have mentioned the BFG's are more expensive yet in the 3 Rover clubs that I have been with over the years, when it comes to At type tires there are far more BFG's out there then any other tire.
I might be wrong but having owned BFG MT's for my 99 D2 for nearly the last 95,000 plus miles, and seen how they held up, I am a big BFG follower.
I might be wrong but having owned BFG MT's for my 99 D2 for nearly the last 95,000 plus miles, and seen how they held up, I am a big BFG follower.
I purchased a BMW that had a set of Generals that failed less than halfway through their expected life. The interior sidewalls literally disintegrated and I didn't discover they were falling apart until I climbed under the car to do some maintenance. I am fortunate I didn't experience complete failure at speed. This experience is anecdotal, and I suppose could happen to any tire brand, but I will certainly never have another set of Generals. Conversely, I have had two sets of BFG's to this point and find them very high quality and an outstanding value. In the interest of full disclosure, none of these tires have been AT's though.
I've had 2 sets of BFG A/T TKO tires on my Rodeo and they're virtually indestructable. I got 50K+ out of the first set and retired them before they were worn out because it was the beginning of the winter season and I justwantednew tires.
They may very well be the best all around A/T tire ever made.When the Michelins wear out on the Discovery, a set of BFGs will be going on.
Dave
They may very well be the best all around A/T tire ever made.When the Michelins wear out on the Discovery, a set of BFGs will be going on.
Dave
I say it depends what you use them for. As Mike said, the construction of the BFG, is stronger than the Grabber A/T2, but having owned both, the BFG on my old cherokee, and now the Grabbers on the Discovery, I can say that although I can't talk about the comparison between the tires on the same vehicle, the Grabbers are superior if they are used in the winter. The rubber is a little softer, and there's more slits in the tread blocks for icy conditions.
The A/T2s are a fairly new model in General's line-up, and I think they are worth it for a general all around tire. If you have no winter condition, or if you have winter tires and you would only use these in non-winter conditions, I think I'd go with the BFG, since they are not much pricier.Last february when I got my A/T2s in size 265/70-16, they were almost half the price of the BFGs.
Since you live in california, I doubt that you need the winter aspects of the A/T2s, unless you travel north a lot. But then again, with global warming, you never know
The A/T2s are a fairly new model in General's line-up, and I think they are worth it for a general all around tire. If you have no winter condition, or if you have winter tires and you would only use these in non-winter conditions, I think I'd go with the BFG, since they are not much pricier.Last february when I got my A/T2s in size 265/70-16, they were almost half the price of the BFGs.
Since you live in california, I doubt that you need the winter aspects of the A/T2s, unless you travel north a lot. But then again, with global warming, you never know
It has been a long time since I have owned a set of the BFG AT's. The set I had
was to hard. They where real squirrelly on wet roads. I know a few guys that
have had good luck with Cooper Tires.
was to hard. They where real squirrelly on wet roads. I know a few guys that
have had good luck with Cooper Tires.
The Cooper Discoverer S/T is a really good all around tire. 50% on road and 50% off road and come in a 10 ply if you wish. Also avaliable in commercial grade.
I used them on my FedEx van and they wore alot better than the BFG.
S/T's lasted 9 months and the A/T's less than 6.
Both got me stuck in the snow the same amount but the Cooper's let me heat them up and melt though the ice.
The side walls on the BFG's are to soft and when loaded they "roll" under the rim on turns. They also like to hydroplane.
I used them on my FedEx van and they wore alot better than the BFG.
S/T's lasted 9 months and the A/T's less than 6.
Both got me stuck in the snow the same amount but the Cooper's let me heat them up and melt though the ice.
The side walls on the BFG's are to soft and when loaded they "roll" under the rim on turns. They also like to hydroplane.
For what it's worth I've got 10k on my grabbers and they are hands down the best tire I've ever run on a truck. Very little road noise, great traction and so far tread wear is awesome. I'd recommend them.
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It has been a long time since I have owned a set of the BFG AT's. The set I had
was to hard. They where real squirrelly on wet roads. I know a few guys that
have had good luck with Cooper Tires.
It has been a long time since I have owned a set of the BFG AT's. The set I had
was to hard. They where real squirrelly on wet roads. I know a few guys that
have had good luck with Cooper Tires.
Dave
Well it looks like it's going to be the BFG's. I'm not as concerned about cold weather performance, but traction on wet roads. Where I live there's a rainy season, along with big hills in the city, and thick fog to deal with. I've always heard mixed results about the Gabbers, but overwhelmingly good responses about the BFG's (as seen in this post). Thanks for all your input.


