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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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I see that it has been done, and waas wondering if anyone has attempted it on this board. I read an article where someone had it doine at a Dealerdhip and they charged $800 for the job. There is a detailed report on it if you google it. Just wondering if it is feesable to do this?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Why would you want to, planning on over heating your engine soon?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Perhaps, just perhaps, he has a 2003, or maybe a 2004....

Perhaps, just perhaps, he has a ticking sound that is not valvetrain related, and is not due to low oil pressure, and is not due to bottom-end clearances, and not due to a broken flex plate, and not due to an exhaust manifold/downpipe gasket, and not due to an SAI valve, and not due to a blah blah blah.



FACT: 2003 and 2004 Engines are, for whatever reason, prone to the liners moving.

FACT: This DOES happen in engines that are not overheated, do not have water loss issues, and are not steam-cleaning the pots.

FACT: Any engine that you can heat up to a temperature that is "warm" at best, and move the liners by hand - CLEARLY was not made correctly.

The guy wants to pin his liners because he has the ticking once his engine warms up. If I had a 2003 that was ticking its **** off once it warmed up, but ran perfectly, I'd have no hesitation in pinning the liners.

Why make that comment to a guy asking a very legitimate question???


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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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I asked cause I wanted to hear from him as to his actual reason , not a bunch of what if's and stories.
First, 03's and 04's have no more issue with a slipped sleeve then any other D2, yes, they have more issues then a D1, got any reason why?????
So my question was simply to see why and make sure he is not jumping on the band wagon over slipped sleeves thread that have been popping up recently.
Be sure to answer my D1/D2 question, if you know why.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Disco Mike
they have more issues then a D1, got any reason why?????
General issues with the engine are probably just because the 50 year old tooling was even MORE worn out by the time the D2 came out. As far as liners moving, since the blocks are the same other than the crank sensor mount (which is a separate piece) the only things I can think of are higher "normal" engine temps designed to reduce emissions and a very complex cooling system design that is less forgiving than the D1. I've seen no one give any actual evidence that anything else is different between D1 and D2 engines such as rumors of the aluminum being different, etc. One thing to think about is reports that P38 with the Bosch engine seem to have fewer engine issues, even though they were made at the same time.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Both the aluminum used for the blocks, the metal for the sleeves and the adhesive used to secure the sleeves was changed during the take over, to save money, for which you can tank BMW for.
Ever since then, we have has some sorts of sleeve issues as well as an increase in over heat issues based on the changes from the old style t/stat to the new D2 t/stat and switching to Dexcool all of which rarely showed up in the numbers they do in the D2's.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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I have the Disco Tick but do not plan on trying to remedy it if it is liners.....I was just curious if anyone had done it and wants to admit it. Other than the normal P I T A stuff associated with my 01 D2 mine appears to run good I just wanted to see if anyone had done this and what the outcome was.....
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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If there was away to pin from the sump end of things, then I would do it today. No amount of rotella or mobil 1 filters will fix the tick, got to be pinned or top hatted to make the noise go away.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Could you link the report you found about it mrflea?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Disco Mike
Both the aluminum used for the blocks, the metal for the sleeves and the adhesive used to secure the sleeves was changed during the take over, to save money, for which you can tank BMW for.
Seriously?
You are telling me they use adhesive? And that the liner material is different? And they cast the blocks out of a cheaper alloy?

And that is the difference?
 
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