How much sludge in oil pan is too much?
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How much sludge in oil pan is too much?
During my in-process bottom-end and front-end overhaul, I realized the most time-consuming process is cleaning 20 years of oily dirt and internal varnish from the pan and timing cover. However I was shocked to find 1.3 inches of thick sludge in the lower-most point of the oil pan. The pan had been removed to change the gasket 3 years earlier (according to the service receipt) and I would have assumed the tech would have at least scooped out all of the slop. They did leave the "AllMakes 4x4" gasket label in the oil pan which obstructed 2/3 of my oil suction screen. So I suppose my question is, has anyone ever seem such a massive amount of sludge when you've dropped your pan and removed the windage tray? Would you expect this after 20 years and 154k miles on a Rover V8? Or am I just being reactionary? My big-end bearing shells all were showing copper when I removed them, maybe the paper label obstructing the oil pickup was a factor there? I've since totally degreased and scrubbed out the pan and timing cover, I wish I had some photos to share of the before situation. 154k miles, no other internal engine work done on this engine before this, besides the pan gasket.
Rhys Legge
Rhys Legge
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Richard Gallant (04-13-2020)
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During my in-process bottom-end and front-end overhaul, I realized the most time-consuming process is cleaning 20 years of oily dirt and internal varnish from the pan and timing cover. However I was shocked to find 1.3 inches of thick sludge in the lower-most point of the oil pan. The pan had been removed to change the gasket 3 years earlier (according to the service receipt) and I would have assumed the tech would have at least scooped out all of the slop. They did leave the "AllMakes 4x4" gasket label in the oil pan which obstructed 2/3 of my oil suction screen. So I suppose my question is, has anyone ever seem such a massive amount of sludge when you've dropped your pan and removed the windage tray? Would you expect this after 20 years and 154k miles on a Rover V8? Or am I just being reactionary? My big-end bearing shells all were showing copper when I removed them, maybe the paper label obstructing the oil pickup was a factor there? I've since totally degreased and scrubbed out the pan and timing cover, I wish I had some photos to share of the before situation. 154k miles, no other internal engine work done on this engine before this, besides the pan gasket.
Rhys Legge
Rhys Legge
what is the history of this engine ? Have you had it long
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I dropped my pan at 177k and there was minimal sludge, if any, on the inside. The outside however was a total PITA to clean. More so on the block but gravity did her part and the pan was pretty gross. Now it looks like I flubbed the crucifix seals or the RMS because she drips where the trans meets the block. More likely the crucifix seals since I didn't use the Bearmach. Gaaah, back down it comes. Someday...
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Thanks for all the insight guys, I guess mine was treated to Jiffy lube oil and 10000+ mile changes. Everything is cleaned up now, the bearings have been changed, all orings and gaskets are in with a bit of Hylosil/Hylomar, and will do the 100 mile oil dump and see what happens. I'm going to let this be a cautionary tale to all friends who think regular oil changes are folly.