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Old May 13, 2015 | 04:15 AM
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Hi, new on here and just bought a 2002 D2 with 186k kms to be used as our towing car. Considering the age and kms, it's in good nick.

Issues that I need to sort (that I'm currently aware of):
- 3 amigos......not urgent
- balancing on front wheels (steering wheel judder at about 70km/h)
- oil leaks that are going to be fun to find
- judder from transmission

That's what I need some advice on. As the transmission moves to 4th gear (auto box), travelling at about 60km/h, it judder a until I pick up more speed. As I move past 75km/h it's fine. All other gears are fine. Tried looking through the forum, but can't see if anyone else has had a similar problem.

Any help out there?

Thanks
Dave
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 05:13 AM
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At a guess it could be the following:

Low on ATF or needs changing together with a new sump filter.
Cracked plate on the torque coverter.
Engine mountings need replacing usually give out at 80-100K miles.
Also check the front drive shaft (propshaft) at the cardan double UJ's for wear together with the rear propshaft and rubber rotoflex.


Start with the easier remedies, i.e. ATF level (which is checked with the engine running) and also the condition. If it smells of burning or is dark red to brown it needs to be changed along with the sump filter.

A cracked torque converter plate requires an auto gearbox removal and isn't a fun job.

Engine mounts is a relatively easy job and simple to check and install.
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 05:47 AM
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^ orf first guess is mine too
Low on juice
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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By the way, you do know that while the three amigos lights are illuminated, you DO NOT have ABS, along with hill descent control and traction control? You have brakes, but no ABS. Just in case it makes a difference.....
 
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Old May 13, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Torque converter lock up clutch is not locking up tight. Or you got some clutches slipping.

Believe it or not - replace the battery to get the voltage up and may be the alternator.
That way, when the transmission computer tries to "LOCK" a clutch, it has a stronger force to lock the clutch.

And try Lukas

 
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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So done the ATF filter and fluid and still doing the same thing. SO I'm now assuming its the Torque convert plate (Drive plate?) that is now at fault. The amount of juddering in 4th can be quite bad on cold to hardly noticeable when warm, and only really between 60 and 80kph.


Time to get it to the autostore for a big bill I suppose - I don't have the skills, kit or inclination to remove the transmission!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 11:52 PM
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Lukas stop slip really works.
Used it in a BMW HP22 transmission with a bad C clutch.
Cleaned it right up for 6 months.

Not voodoo.
Works.

Ignore at your own peril.
 
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