My throttle body heater is bypassed. Issues?
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Even though it was 10 degrees today, I decided to take a look and see if there is anything else I can look at to see why my truck is running a bit hotter than it should (210 highway, 221 traffic/around town).
I did notice something today that I never looked at in the past. My throttle body heater is bypassed! Now, I really do not think this is the cause of the heating issues (please tell me it is though!), but I'm wondering what other kind of adverse effects it could be having. This has never been in place since I am the owner (over a year).
If you look at the diagram from the Rave linked below, currently hose number 7 goes from the bottom of the coolant tank to the outlet pipe that hose 6 should run into. It does not look like that will interrupt anything in the coolant system as flow remains the same, but the throttle body is not getting heated.
I figure this was left off by accident when the p/o's shop did the HG and many other things, or, it was bypassed due to a leak and never put back on. The pic below shows where the hoses should go.
So, what does the throttle body heater actually do? I assume it's function is more important in the winter months, but I have not seen a set up like this on other cars for figured it was some type of odd LR thing.
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I did notice something today that I never looked at in the past. My throttle body heater is bypassed! Now, I really do not think this is the cause of the heating issues (please tell me it is though!), but I'm wondering what other kind of adverse effects it could be having. This has never been in place since I am the owner (over a year).
If you look at the diagram from the Rave linked below, currently hose number 7 goes from the bottom of the coolant tank to the outlet pipe that hose 6 should run into. It does not look like that will interrupt anything in the coolant system as flow remains the same, but the throttle body is not getting heated.
I figure this was left off by accident when the p/o's shop did the HG and many other things, or, it was bypassed due to a leak and never put back on. The pic below shows where the hoses should go.
So, what does the throttle body heater actually do? I assume it's function is more important in the winter months, but I have not seen a set up like this on other cars for figured it was some type of odd LR thing.
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Here's the safety issue - they probably had a leak in the gasket, there is a $24 repair kit from Atlantic British - BUT - if you are driving along with just the right enviromental conditions and outdoor air temp, there is a possibility that your throttle plate could ice up in the open position. So if you were pushing to crest the ridge on the highway, imagine the problems with a vehicle that won't let off the gas as you start down the other side. Until you make repairs be aware of this and prepared to throw tranny to "N" and turn off ignition.
see Throttle Body Heater Plate Kit | Land Rover And Range Rover Fuel System Parts
and the layout is attached.
see Throttle Body Heater Plate Kit | Land Rover And Range Rover Fuel System Parts
and the layout is attached.
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Here's the safety issue - they probably had a leak in the gasket, there is a $24 repair kit from Atlantic British - BUT - if you are driving along with just the right enviromental conditions and outdoor air temp, there is a possibility that your throttle plate could ice up in the open position. So if you were pushing to crest the ridge on the highway, imagine the problems with a vehicle that won't let off the gas as you start down the other side. Until you make repairs be aware of this and prepared to throw tranny to "N" and turn off ignition.
see Throttle Body Heater Plate Kit | Land Rover And Range Rover Fuel System Parts
and the layout is attached.
see Throttle Body Heater Plate Kit | Land Rover And Range Rover Fuel System Parts
and the layout is attached.
And, should it get stuck at WOT, I will be thankful I'm in a Disco lol.
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By looking at your pictures, it does not look like it was replaced. The kit includes the gasket and a new bottom piece where the hoses connect, and that bottom piece doesnt look new to me.
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Have you ever heard of carburetor icing?
Throttle bodies to the same thing, the air coming into the engine is extremely cold and moving at high volume and when moisture laden it will form ice on anything it can.
Not to much of a problem in city traffic but on the highway it can be and like already stated your throttle will literally freeze in whatever position it is in and if the icing gets to bad it can restrict air flow and actually stall the engine.
If you live in a low humidity climate probably not much of a issue.
And keep in mind it does not have to be below freezing for this to happen, 36*F or colder with lost of moisture and it will happen.
Ever notice ice forming on the fronts of your mirrors while driving? Ice is also forming on your t-body.
It only happens while driving and not at idle or low speed because there is enough heat built up under the hood to melt any ice that forms.
Throttle bodies to the same thing, the air coming into the engine is extremely cold and moving at high volume and when moisture laden it will form ice on anything it can.
Not to much of a problem in city traffic but on the highway it can be and like already stated your throttle will literally freeze in whatever position it is in and if the icing gets to bad it can restrict air flow and actually stall the engine.
If you live in a low humidity climate probably not much of a issue.
And keep in mind it does not have to be below freezing for this to happen, 36*F or colder with lost of moisture and it will happen.
Ever notice ice forming on the fronts of your mirrors while driving? Ice is also forming on your t-body.
It only happens while driving and not at idle or low speed because there is enough heat built up under the hood to melt any ice that forms.
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Have you ever heard of carburetor icing?
Throttle bodies to the same thing, the air coming into the engine is extremely cold and moving at high volume and when moisture laden it will form ice on anything it can.
Not to much of a problem in city traffic but on the highway it can be and like already stated your throttle will literally freeze in whatever position it is in and if the icing gets to bad it can restrict air flow and actually stall the engine.
If you live in a low humidity climate probably not much of a issue.
And keep in mind it does not have to be below freezing for this to happen, 36*F or colder with lost of moisture and it will happen.
Ever notice ice forming on the fronts of your mirrors while driving? Ice is also forming on your t-body.
It only happens while driving and not at idle or low speed because there is enough heat built up under the hood to melt any ice that forms.
Throttle bodies to the same thing, the air coming into the engine is extremely cold and moving at high volume and when moisture laden it will form ice on anything it can.
Not to much of a problem in city traffic but on the highway it can be and like already stated your throttle will literally freeze in whatever position it is in and if the icing gets to bad it can restrict air flow and actually stall the engine.
If you live in a low humidity climate probably not much of a issue.
And keep in mind it does not have to be below freezing for this to happen, 36*F or colder with lost of moisture and it will happen.
Ever notice ice forming on the fronts of your mirrors while driving? Ice is also forming on your t-body.
It only happens while driving and not at idle or low speed because there is enough heat built up under the hood to melt any ice that forms.
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I'm not suggesting you bypass it or not, but I bypassed mine after it started to leak about 4 years ago. To this day I haven't experienced any ill effects. I live in NJ, so we don't get the worst winters, but by the same token we get our fair share of cold weather. It is my opinion that by bypassing it, it can never leak ... which isn't something that can be said about most LR items. Best of luck.