Need Help with Britpart Springs and Gaz Shocks
#11
Just checked the the Rave, GVW is basically the same stock springs or SLS. Rear Axle loading is higher but as @mollusc notes that relates more to towing.
So basically you are running the equivalent of stock springs in the rear, If you can I would try unloading the roof rack, see if the issue remains. If so you may have an issue with the SLS or ACE
From RAVE
Here is my Disco, it was a 7 seater, the jump seats and 60% seat are removed. The tent, awning and bars work out to about 150 lbs in total. Even empty I have no significant body roll. My off road load is kept below the rear window line.
And this may help - that red Disco has a lot of extra weight up top and he has very little extra roll - all springs as well
So basically you are running the equivalent of stock springs in the rear, If you can I would try unloading the roof rack, see if the issue remains. If so you may have an issue with the SLS or ACE
From RAVE
NOTE: The rear axle load for vehicles with self levelling suspension can be increased to a maximum of 1928 kg (4249
lb) when towing, provided road speed is limited to 60 mph (100 km/h).
NOTE: Axle weights are non additive. The individual maximum weights and gross vehicle weight must not be
exceeded.
kgs/ lbs
Unladen weight:
⇒ V8 models 2095 - 2235 4619 - 4928
⇒ Td5 model 2150 - 2280 4740 - 5027
Max.GVW:
⇒ All 5 seat vehicles (coil springs) 2750 6063
⇒ All 7 seat Diesel engine vehicles (coil springs) 2880 6347
⇒ All 7 seat Petrol engine vehicles (coil springs) 2825 6215
⇒ V8 models with self levelling suspension 2825 6228
⇒ Td5 models with self levelling suspension 2880 6349
Max. front axle load 1200 2646
Max. rear axle load:
⇒ With coil springs 1720 3792
⇒ With self levelling suspension 1800 3968
lb) when towing, provided road speed is limited to 60 mph (100 km/h).
NOTE: Axle weights are non additive. The individual maximum weights and gross vehicle weight must not be
exceeded.
kgs/ lbs
Unladen weight:
⇒ V8 models 2095 - 2235 4619 - 4928
⇒ Td5 model 2150 - 2280 4740 - 5027
Max.GVW:
⇒ All 5 seat vehicles (coil springs) 2750 6063
⇒ All 7 seat Diesel engine vehicles (coil springs) 2880 6347
⇒ All 7 seat Petrol engine vehicles (coil springs) 2825 6215
⇒ V8 models with self levelling suspension 2825 6228
⇒ Td5 models with self levelling suspension 2880 6349
Max. front axle load 1200 2646
Max. rear axle load:
⇒ With coil springs 1720 3792
⇒ With self levelling suspension 1800 3968
Here is my Disco, it was a 7 seater, the jump seats and 60% seat are removed. The tent, awning and bars work out to about 150 lbs in total. Even empty I have no significant body roll. My off road load is kept below the rear window line.
And this may help - that red Disco has a lot of extra weight up top and he has very little extra roll - all springs as well
#12
You ordered stock replacement springs. No lift and not heavy duty.
Maybe the extra weight clapped out your OG springs leading to the instability... And I think Richard was saying you were overloading the roof, not the truck.
You may want a taller or stiffer spring after you see how the front sits with those Britparts... Sounds like OME HD would work fine in your case.
Let us know how that works for you.
Maybe the extra weight clapped out your OG springs leading to the instability... And I think Richard was saying you were overloading the roof, not the truck.
You may want a taller or stiffer spring after you see how the front sits with those Britparts... Sounds like OME HD would work fine in your case.
Let us know how that works for you.
The roof isn't overloaded anymore that it was before. I HAD stock ACE factory springs with no issues. I added the ARB bumper and HB winch and it sunk 2 inches. I added the Britpart heavy duty springs and + 2 shocks and it's back up to where it was before BUT the shop said it SWAYS. It did not sway before the ARB bumper and winch and new shocks were added/.
Wondering if Old Man Emu Extra Heavy Duty Front Springs would make any difference over the Britpart.
#14
Just checked the the Rave, GVW is basically the same stock springs or SLS. Rear Axle loading is higher but as @mollusc notes that relates more to towing.
So basically you are running the equivalent of stock springs in the rear, If you can I would try unloading the roof rack, see if the issue remains. If so you may have an issue with the SLS or ACE
From RAVE
Here is my Disco, it was a 7 seater, the jump seats and 60% seat are removed. The tent, awning and bars work out to about 150 lbs in total. Even empty I have no significant body roll. My off road load is kept below the rear window line.
And this may help - that red Disco has a lot of extra weight up top and he has very little extra roll - all springs as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZTiHo0dA8k
So basically you are running the equivalent of stock springs in the rear, If you can I would try unloading the roof rack, see if the issue remains. If so you may have an issue with the SLS or ACE
From RAVE
Here is my Disco, it was a 7 seater, the jump seats and 60% seat are removed. The tent, awning and bars work out to about 150 lbs in total. Even empty I have no significant body roll. My off road load is kept below the rear window line.
And this may help - that red Disco has a lot of extra weight up top and he has very little extra roll - all springs as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZTiHo0dA8k
No wrong You cant be running the equiv. of stock springs in the rear when the PSI increases to compensate..
#15
You ordered stock replacement springs. No lift and not heavy duty.
Maybe the extra weight clapped out your OG springs leading to the instability... And I think Richard was saying you were overloading the roof, not the truck.
You may want a taller or stiffer spring after you see how the front sits with those Britparts... Sounds like OME HD would work fine in your case.
Let us know how that works for you.
Maybe the extra weight clapped out your OG springs leading to the instability... And I think Richard was saying you were overloading the roof, not the truck.
You may want a taller or stiffer spring after you see how the front sits with those Britparts... Sounds like OME HD would work fine in your case.
Let us know how that works for you.
The truck sits fine. The issue is that it's top heavy and swaying after the ARB bumper and winch. The shop asked me if I had ACE. I found that strange since they should know it's ACE when putting the shocks on. But I don't see how ACE would affect it. The rears are SLS AIR.
Does anyone here have any experience with this ?
#17
You are overloaded for the springs, those only add 100 to 200 Lbs of extra weight.
You have 100Lbs on the rack + rack weight depending the rack that adds 75 to 100 + lbs The dynamic load roof load of a Disco 2 is 160 lbs tops, with a stock suspension so you are over.
Then you have the winch and bumper another 100.
You still have not added anything else
You need to do your suspension properly not toss parts at it.
You have 100Lbs on the rack + rack weight depending the rack that adds 75 to 100 + lbs The dynamic load roof load of a Disco 2 is 160 lbs tops, with a stock suspension so you are over.
Then you have the winch and bumper another 100.
You still have not added anything else
You need to do your suspension properly not toss parts at it.
I got about 100 lbs or less on the rack .. a 33 spare tire hanging off the back .. and another 100 lbs of gear in the truck. I had 6 people in the truck once average weight maybe 180 lbs each .. that's over 1000 lbs on stock springs before the Britpart HD were added and it didn't sway ..
#18
In 9 years of being on here and 13 years of ownership I've never heard of anyone using Britpart springs or GAZ shocks. Britpart doesn't enjoy a great reputation for quality or even for parts being as advertised.
Congrats on being the first.
Looks like it will be up to you to let us all know how that goes.
Congrats on being the first.
Looks like it will be up to you to let us all know how that goes.
#20
In 9 years of being on here and 13 years of ownership I've never heard of anyone using Britpart springs or GAZ shocks. Britpart doesn't enjoy a great reputation for quality or even for parts being as advertised.
Congrats on being the first.
Looks like it will be up to you to let us all know how that goes.
Congrats on being the first.
Looks like it will be up to you to let us all know how that goes.
There are other threads where people have used them and AB sells them in kits. Since I only have 2 springs I don't need the kits they sell. And the only place to order them from was LRpartsdirect.
Those HD Springs are 60-70 bucks for 2 .. you cant beat the price.