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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Need some clarification on the layout of the track rod and the drag link. Been reading the Rave and it shows a detailed diagram of the steering components including the location of the drag link, but it does not include the location of the track rod in conjunction to the drag link. See example on page 694 of the Rave.

Ive decided to save some time and hassle and just replace the entire track rod and drag link assemblies.

https://www.roverparts.com/Parts/ANR1000.cfm
https://www.roverparts.com/Parts/TIQ000010.cfm
https://www.roverparts.com/Parts/QHG000050.cfm
You guys often say dont fix what isnt broken but I consider this preventative maintenance and peace of mind. Sounds like removing the tie rod ends individually and re-adjusting everything would be a pain in the *** for a noob such as myself so Im hoping that since the new tie rod ends are already installed on the rods, all I would have to do is remove some nuts, pull off the old rods, install the new rods and be on my way without any adjustments.

This accurate or do I still need to make any adjustments once the new assemblies are installed? Do I need any special tools for the job? Considering Im not removing the old tie rod ends from the old rods? Im hoping to just remove the entire rod with tie rod ends still on them. This would also save me $$$ because I would not have to rent a tie rod removal tool. IF I can do the work myself than I will save another $200 in labor which is what DAP will charge me.

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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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If it's not broken, don't fix it. Especially with chinese parts that are likely less strong than your used genuine stuff.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ZGPhoto
If it's not broken, don't fix it. Especially with chinese parts that are likely less strong than your used genuine stuff.
I doubt AB sells cheap Chinese parts lol. But my lower rod needs to be replaced anyways so might as well replace them both as DiscoMike and others suggested.

And we cant always rely on genuine parts: Wiper arms, front driveshaft lol I wonder who made them
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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AB sells all of Allmakes stuff, a lot of it is Chinese.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 12:24 AM
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Lucky8 Llc. - TF255, TerraFirma steering rod set

Whole shebang, nuts and all. Stronger than OE, they are solid steel. Plus, you can use standard D1 tie rod ends when you need to replace them. And its still cheaper, after shipping than AB.

To adjust them you need 2 1 1/16" wrenches.

You still need the tie rod end puller to pop the tie rod end out of its seat. Tool rental is free at autozone and O'Reilly, you just need to put down a deposit.

When you crawl under the truck, the rod that goes from the steering box to the passenger side wheel in front of the axle is the track rod. The drag link is attached to both wheels behind the axle.
 

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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 01:25 AM
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[QUOTE=Alan Phillips;379069]Lucky8 Llc. - TF255, TerraFirma steering rod set

Whole shebang, nuts and all. Stronger than OE, they are solid steel. Plus, you can use standard D1 tie rod ends when you need to replace them. And its still cheaper, after shipping than AB.

1 includes both rods and all the ends and hardware? and your sure they are stronger than the ones AB sells? What are the original rods made out of then? Just curious. In any case Ill bookmark the page and give it a week or so to think it over. Im very picky about who and where I buy parts from. Never delt with Lucky8 before either.
Thanks for the tip, Ill probably end up ordering them and see how they hold up.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 04:50 AM
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The original design is hollow tubes, like on any other car. These are literally solid bars with a threaded hole on either end for the TRE.

Lucky8 is a good company, lots of folks on here will say the same.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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is not that hard take out the old rod and adjust the new one to the approx. length then get an alignment.
If your going to get some real use out of your SE Trail 1 Edition go with the Lucky 8, if you just going to be on the street and sometimes off road the AB stuff is perfectly fine.
If you dont plan of bouncing your frontend gear off of rocks the All Make is fine, most companys in england carry All Make as there standard replacement part for Land Rover.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TRIARII
Im hoping to just remove the entire rod with tie rod ends still on them. This would also save me $$$ because I would not have to rent a tie rod removal tool. IF I can do the work myself than I will save another $200 in labor which is what DAP will charge me.
You make no sense whatsoever.
Ball joints (tie rod ends) are a maintenance item, just like spark plugs. If you don't have the tools to replace them, get them. Otherwise every time you need to replace ends you're going to be buying a complete assembly. It's like saying you need new tires so you're going to buy new wheel and tire sets.
Whether you replace just the ends or the whole unit you're going to need an alignment.
For what you use your Rover for the stock tubes are fine.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure that Terrafirma stuff isn't from England.
 
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