O2 sensor help
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O2 sensor help
So, I am not sure where to go right now.... I did some research here on P0150, 171, 130 & 134 which all pointed to the O2 sensors. I have an ultra gauge, and it too said these codes plus the system was running open loop.
I ordered new O2 sensors (Bosch) from Rockauto and installed... initial results GREAT truck ran smoother and the Ultragauge showed closed loop and no codes
BUT - now showing P0150 and open loop again??!! Did the sensor go bad? OR am I missing something else?
Couple weird things, the UG shows 0 volt on all sensors at time and just in general goes all wonky on O2 sensor readings from time to time. Is there a computer issue? Maybe wiring (as when it heats up the issue is more consistent, so far). I checked the wires as best I could... as they run behind the heads / valve covers BUT no chaffed wires that I could see.... ugh!
Appreciate any insight, thank you.
I ordered new O2 sensors (Bosch) from Rockauto and installed... initial results GREAT truck ran smoother and the Ultragauge showed closed loop and no codes
BUT - now showing P0150 and open loop again??!! Did the sensor go bad? OR am I missing something else?
Couple weird things, the UG shows 0 volt on all sensors at time and just in general goes all wonky on O2 sensor readings from time to time. Is there a computer issue? Maybe wiring (as when it heats up the issue is more consistent, so far). I checked the wires as best I could... as they run behind the heads / valve covers BUT no chaffed wires that I could see.... ugh!
Appreciate any insight, thank you.
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Ok, went outside and applied dielectric grease and inspected the wires. No issues... however while doing the inspection, I notice that the manifold looked cracked
Would that effect the sensor? It may be leaking / introducing gases causing bad readings. This may be an issue??? I would have thought I would have noticed some symptom. Have a look at the attached photo, it shows what I think is a crack...
Appreciate any input, thank you.
Would that effect the sensor? It may be leaking / introducing gases causing bad readings. This may be an issue??? I would have thought I would have noticed some symptom. Have a look at the attached photo, it shows what I think is a crack...
Appreciate any input, thank you.
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Oh man, that sucks! That could definitely cause some weird readings.
What about your MAF reading? I'm not sure about the "lb/s" measurement the scan tool is using. My scan tool reads out in inches of mercury. But 0.01? Seems like a low MAF reading, which can also cause bad o2 readings. At idle, on my scan tool, it usually runs around .50 hgi. Maybe try a few wide open throttle snaps and make sure you get a good spike at the beginning of the throttle snaps. Again, I can only tell you what my scan tool gives me for readings, but on a throttle snap it spikes to about 5.00 or higher if the MAF sensor is good.
I hope this helps you.
Good luck!
What about your MAF reading? I'm not sure about the "lb/s" measurement the scan tool is using. My scan tool reads out in inches of mercury. But 0.01? Seems like a low MAF reading, which can also cause bad o2 readings. At idle, on my scan tool, it usually runs around .50 hgi. Maybe try a few wide open throttle snaps and make sure you get a good spike at the beginning of the throttle snaps. Again, I can only tell you what my scan tool gives me for readings, but on a throttle snap it spikes to about 5.00 or higher if the MAF sensor is good.
I hope this helps you.
Good luck!
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Ok, so went out and did some more Trouble shooting, I swapped the B2S1 with B1S1 and it worked for a few minutes. BUT now BOTH are not working. Thinking short cct - trying to figure out the RAV electrical manual… found the cct but it doesn’t tell me where those wires go to. HELP pls…
I am going to drive it this way for now… grrrrr! I thought I was close to fixing it. Seems like a little more to it. How frustrating!!!
Really appreciate any help - what should the next step be?? I am thinking go to the wrecker and pull the wire harness for the B2S1 side and splice in a new one on mine…
But how much work will that be. AND I need to get new sensors
ARGGGHH!
I am going to drive it this way for now… grrrrr! I thought I was close to fixing it. Seems like a little more to it. How frustrating!!!
Really appreciate any help - what should the next step be?? I am thinking go to the wrecker and pull the wire harness for the B2S1 side and splice in a new one on mine…
But how much work will that be. AND I need to get new sensors
ARGGGHH!
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Ok, so went out and did some more Trouble shooting, I swapped the B2S1 with B1S1 and it worked for a few minutes. BUT now BOTH are not working. Thinking short cct - trying to figure out the RAV electrical manual… found the cct but it doesn’t tell me where those wires go to. HELP pls…
I am going to drive it this way for now… grrrrr! I thought I was close to fixing it. Seems like a little more to it. How frustrating!!!
Really appreciate any help - what should the next step be?? I am thinking go to the wrecker and pull the wire harness for the B2S1 side and splice in a new one on mine…
But how much work will that be. AND I need to get new sensors
ARGGGHH!
I am going to drive it this way for now… grrrrr! I thought I was close to fixing it. Seems like a little more to it. How frustrating!!!
Really appreciate any help - what should the next step be?? I am thinking go to the wrecker and pull the wire harness for the B2S1 side and splice in a new one on mine…
But how much work will that be. AND I need to get new sensors
ARGGGHH!
So the EPIC saga continues.... I am getting the feeling that the Rover hates me I have trouble shot the O2 system... and there are several items that confuse me. I have done:
confirmation of harness (resistance checks)
swapped O2 sensors from side to side... to ensure fault doesn't follow
computer (initial thoughts was ECU) swapped
new sensors all around
I still have the problem!! So back to the start I guess. I def have a crack in the exhaust manifold, but not an issue at the moment.
Really would appreciate anyone's assistance with this... if you have had experience with a bad O2 sensor or cct... pls let me know.
Thank you.
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