Which oil is best?
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I don't really have time to answer stupid questions, but here goes.
The first number in the designation (i.e 10W) is the apparent viscosity of the oil when it is cold; the W stands for `winter'.
So I use 10w-40 so I get better flow on cold start ups during the "W" winter months. I suppose if I lived where it snowed more then once every 10 years I'd use 5w-40 during the winter months to help with cold start up even further.
The first number in the designation (i.e 10W) is the apparent viscosity of the oil when it is cold; the W stands for `winter'.
So I use 10w-40 so I get better flow on cold start ups during the "W" winter months. I suppose if I lived where it snowed more then once every 10 years I'd use 5w-40 during the winter months to help with cold start up even further.
My point is that you could use the 10w-40 in summer too, as the only difference is the cold viscosity, and in summer the hot viscosity is the main issue.
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Because Rotella is better in Discos and Shell doesn't make a 10w Rotella.
It's the ZDDP additives, not just whats before the W, though that is important too.
This is all well documented on this site which is what I think Jared was getting at....
https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...estions-46975/
It's the ZDDP additives, not just whats before the W, though that is important too.
This is all well documented on this site which is what I think Jared was getting at....
https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...estions-46975/
Last edited by Dave03S; 02-11-2014 at 12:31 PM.
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I run semi-synthetic 10W-40 all the year around. Temperatures here very rarely drop below 0C and are usually 5-10C during the winter months and circa 30C summer but have reached 40C occasionally. I always run good quality oils (but we are talking a diesel engine TD5 oil not gas) like Total or Elf which meet the recommended standards. Oil changes run to 10,000 miles but often far less maybe 5K miles (the recommended is 12,000 miles)
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Viscosities at 100° C
15.7 Chevron Delo 15w40
15.7 Rotella 15w40
15.2 M1 10w-40
14.6 Mobil Delvac 1 5w-40
14.2 T6 5w-40
14.2 Chevron Delo 5w40
14.1 Amsoil AMO 10w40
13.4 M1 0w40
12.0 M1 10w30
These are from VOA on BITOG. So, it turns out all 40 weight oils don't have the same viscosity. I recently learned this and was pretty surprised.
As the "Stupid Oil Question" thread will attest, oil threads always turn into gigantic arguments. Several of us question the main ideas in that thread. The best thing you can do is go to BITOG and do some research over there.
The two caveats about our trucks are:
1) These are extremely dirty engines, so extended oil change intervals are not a good idea.
2) We have flat tappet camhafts that need an additive called ZDDP that is typically found in diesel oils.
Otherwise, it's up to you. My truck ran much rougher and noisier with 15w-40 Rotella, so I switched to M1 5w-40 TDT which smoothed it right out. I've also tried Rotella T6 which ran much smoother than the Rotella T. After the last couple of years of experimenting, I'm pretty much done with dino oil. Every vehicle I own runs noticeably worse with it. This post has my thoughts on synth vs. dino. Another of my posts about oil.
15.7 Chevron Delo 15w40
15.7 Rotella 15w40
15.2 M1 10w-40
14.6 Mobil Delvac 1 5w-40
14.2 T6 5w-40
14.2 Chevron Delo 5w40
14.1 Amsoil AMO 10w40
13.4 M1 0w40
12.0 M1 10w30
These are from VOA on BITOG. So, it turns out all 40 weight oils don't have the same viscosity. I recently learned this and was pretty surprised.
As the "Stupid Oil Question" thread will attest, oil threads always turn into gigantic arguments. Several of us question the main ideas in that thread. The best thing you can do is go to BITOG and do some research over there.
The two caveats about our trucks are:
1) These are extremely dirty engines, so extended oil change intervals are not a good idea.
2) We have flat tappet camhafts that need an additive called ZDDP that is typically found in diesel oils.
Otherwise, it's up to you. My truck ran much rougher and noisier with 15w-40 Rotella, so I switched to M1 5w-40 TDT which smoothed it right out. I've also tried Rotella T6 which ran much smoother than the Rotella T. After the last couple of years of experimenting, I'm pretty much done with dino oil. Every vehicle I own runs noticeably worse with it. This post has my thoughts on synth vs. dino. Another of my posts about oil.
Last edited by dr. mordo; 02-11-2014 at 12:48 PM.
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"which oil is best? The kind you change every 3k miles."
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Yes, I fully agree. Way too many guys waste way too much money on this or that special oil, especially on synthetic oil. I used to be one of those guys, before I watched several close friends, who spent a great deal of time on the road, part of their job. I saw their engines repeatedly torn down over time, inspected carefully for build up of varnish, tar, carbon deposits, other deposits, etc. with some using only this or that brand of oil, or only synthetic oil, etc., compared to others who "used whatever oil happened to be on sale when they changed the oil," which they all did every 3,000 miles. Results: No perceptible difference in internal engine wear or build up of deposits, no matter what oil they used. So, when oil is changed often enough, the brand of oil, synthetic or non synthetic means little or no difference. For warmer weather, use heavier viscosity; for colder weather, use thinner viscosity, that is important to lubricate better while engine is cold or hot, and Rover engines, due to oil pump type characteristics, function better with thicker viscosity oil, so take that into consideration.
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Yes, I fully agree. Way too many guys waste way too much money on this or that special oil, especially on synthetic oil. I used to be one of those guys, before I watched several close friends, who spent a great deal of time on the road, part of their job. I saw their engines repeatedly torn down over time, inspected carefully for build up of varnish, tar, carbon deposits, other deposits, etc. with some using only this or that brand of oil, or only synthetic oil, etc., compared to others who "used whatever oil happened to be on sale when they changed the oil," which they all did every 3,000 miles. Results: No perceptible difference in internal engine wear or build up of deposits, no matter what oil they used. So, when oil is changed often enough, the brand of oil, synthetic or non synthetic means little or no difference. For warmer weather, use heavier viscosity; for colder weather, use thinner viscosity, that is important to lubricate better while engine is cold or hot, and Rover engines, due to oil pump type characteristics, function better with thicker viscosity oil, so take that into consideration.
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I remember talking to an old boy with a very old Austin Somerset (don't mention Somerset at the moment - floods) I asked him what he used and how often did he change the oil - his answer was...........whatever is available, he said he changed it once so I checked the odometer, there was 180K miles on the clock, he'd had it from new, for 40 years . He just topped up the oil when he remembered to do it. He's never changed the gearbox or axle oils. Bearing in mind there were no synthetic oils in those days and Castrol was the norm. If it was ever revved over 3-4K revs I'd have been surprised. Makes you wonder whether we are all being taken for mugs by the oil companies.
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