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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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My problem is fairly simple, I have purchased a set of wheels and tires from a 2006 Range Rover Sport (image attached) and i'd like to mount them on my 2004 Discovery II SE. Primarily because the wheels I purchased have practically unused studded snow tires, I paid so little for the set it was cheaper than buying snow tires for my 18" Hurricane wheels. I plan on putting the hurricanes back on when Spring hits, until then, I need snow tires.

I've read that the hub size is slightly different, and the wheel nuts (lugs) are different, I've searched for the Spigot & Bolt kits but I can only seem to find them in the United Kingdom, and I'm not entirely sure they'll work with my current setup.

Any information would be helpful!
A domestic source to purchase the parts would be nice also!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Youmean these:

Land Rover Discovery 2 Wheel Adaptors for L322 Wheels | eBay

I run them on L322 wheels off of an RRS on my D2. You will also need the 20 number L322 lug (wheel) nuts as well as the standard D2 lug (wheel) nuts don't fit the wheels.

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 04:58 PM
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These are the wheel nuts you need but be sure to check and confirm the exact thread size with the D2 as the wheels and nuts changed around 2005 and later. You will need 20 nuts or 16 standard nuts and 4 security locking nuts plus any you may need for the spare wheel which is 3 number or 2 plus 1 locking nut.

Range Rover Sport Discovery LM322 Set of 16 Alloy Wheel Nuts 22.5mm Chrome | eBay
 

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Lucky8 sells the hub adapters.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jafir
Lucky8 sells the hub adapters.
I ordered them from Lucky 8 on Friday!
$110 Shipped for all 20 Lug Nuts and the Spigots.

I had a fun conversation with Eric from Lucky 8 also.
Great guys, excellent prices and service, I'm going to go through them as much as possible in the future instead of AB.

Thanks for the information guys!
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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So here's an update, I received the rings, and all 20 lugs.
Took them to Les Schwab and they told me two things.
#1: the rings didn't fit.
#2: I didn't need them in the first place, according to them, all these land rover wheels use the Beveled (Acorn) style lug nut which centers the wheel on the hub when tightened, the centering hub doesn't need spigots (hubcentric rings) anyway.

Now I'm just curious if I'm actually at any risk driving it?
Les Schwab says I don't need them, everybody online says I do.
I went ahead and let them install the wheels, they had a little shimmy, but I had them balanced and everything is smooth as butter.

I think I'm going to purchase a steering damper from Atlantic British.
These wheels are heavy and wide, so I'm getting a lot of jerk back in the wheel when hitting bumps.
Steering Damper Bilstein (6497D2 Same Fit As Part # BE3-A580-HO) - Land Rover steering from Atlantic British
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWhiteRover
#1: the rings didn't fit.
#2: I didn't need them in the first place, according to them, all these land rover wheels use the Beveled (Acorn) style lug nut which centers the wheel on the hub when tightened, the centering hub doesn't need spigots (hubcentric rings) anyway.
#1, you'd need to contact the place you got them, but I'd be that Les Schwab did is mistaken, based on #2

#2 they are wrong. Land Rover alloy wheels (and just about every other alloy wheel on the planet) are hub-centric, not lug-centric. The factory lug nuts are sometimes beveled, to allow a steel spare wheel to be used, but the lug nuts don't center the alloy wheel. Go out and pull one off, you'll see how much wiggle room there is in the giant holes in the wheel.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jafir
#1, you'd need to contact the place you got them, but I'd be that Les Schwab did is mistaken, based on #2

#2 they are wrong. Land Rover alloy wheels (and just about every other alloy wheel on the planet) are hub-centric, not lug-centric. The factory lug nuts are sometimes beveled, to allow a steel spare wheel to be used, but the lug nuts don't center the alloy wheel. Go out and pull one off, you'll see how much wiggle room there is in the giant holes in the wheel.
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All wheels on motor vehicles are hub centric not wheel nut centric. You are OK using at at low speeds, say to 50mph, but the wheels may work loose over time. The wheel nuts are not necessarily concentric to the hubs (cumulative machining and fitting tolerances) so the wheels may run eccentric to the hubs and vibrate. Long journeys at high speeds on tarmac are taboo until you get the hub/wheel centres issue sorted out properly. It may also damage the wheel spigots, nuts and wheels if they works loose.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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I really appreciate the information!
I'll trust you guys over the guys at Les Schwab.

Here's the thing, the hub rings I purchased from Lucky 8 DO NOT FIT.
I broke out the digital caliper and here's what I've found.

The rings I purchased from Lucky 8.
Interior diameter: 63.95mm
Exterior diameter: 73.07mm

From the information I've found here:
Land Rover Alloy Wheel Fitment Guide - FREE guide to correct alloy wheel fitment

The P38 Hub Bore is 70.1mm
The L322 Hub Bore is 72.6mm

I've purchased another set, and I've sent the Aluminum Rings back to Lucky 8.
This has been quite the headache for something as simple as mounting wheels.
 
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