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Old May 10, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Ok so I'm driving on I-95 headed to work Saturday morning and life is goood. My exit is coming up so I get in the right lane rolling about 70mph. All of the sudden, Rover loses power and I look down at the speedometer and the oil light is on. I give it gas and nothing. Pull on the shoulder and put it in park and try to start it and it just cranks. Pop the hood and there's no leaks or smells. Call my rollback driver at my work and he tows it to the Rover dealership and it sat until this morning. I called them this morning and spoke with the service advisor and he actually almost chuckled at me while explaining what it was or wasn't doing. He asked how deep I wanted to go so I told him that I had a bad feeling after reading all of the horror stories online about the oil pump failure and my Disco VIN fell into the range. I told him that I didn't want to go too deep or spend that much money but give it a decent attempt and see what it looks like. This was the email I got later in the day from them...

"I had the tech check the compression on the engine, and there is none at the cylinders. The only next step to determine the cause of failure is to disassemble the engine, which I am NOT going to recommend. Everything we can determine at this point leads to engine replacement. If we disassemble the engine, the result is likely to be the same, with extra charges for disassembling. Right now, the bill is $187.00. When you get a second to call, I think we should talk about the options."

The options obviously were a motor swap that would cost me $8000-$10000 at the dealer. I have a couple of friends that are techs...one for BMW and one for Mercedes. $1200 from one and $1500 for the other to swap a motor. Does anyone know of where I can get a decent motor in or near MD? Any opinions on if the oil pump caused this and is there any luck with a class-action law suit against LR because of the oil pump situation? Thanks in advance!
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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You wont get anywhere with a law suit, you are not the original owner and LR has been bought and sold twice since your truck was built.

No compression means either there is a hole in all of the pistons, the piston rings are worn out or at least one valve is stuck open on all of the cylinders.

Here is one and common scenario with this problem, the cam shaft bearings ran dry and seized and then the cam shaft broke in half.
If that happened then yes, valves could be stuck open and you would not have any compression.

One way to tell if the cam broke is to remove one valve cover and crank the engine over and see if any of the rocker arms move.

As far as used engines go.
www.autosportsunlimited.com
www.roverlandparts.com
www.car-part.com

Also check e-bay and Craig's List.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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spike for the rest of us could you maybe elaborate as to how there would be NO compression on ALL cylinders. it just seems such an unlikely scenario to me short of a complete and total catastrophic failure
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike555
You wont get anywhere with a law suit, you are not the original owner and LR has been bought and sold twice since your truck was built.

No compression means either there is a hole in all of the pistons, the piston rings are worn out or at least one valve is stuck open on all of the cylinders.

Here is one and common scenario with this problem, the cam shaft bearings ran dry and seized and then the cam shaft broke in half.
If that happened then yes, valves could be stuck open and you would not have any compression.


One way to tell if the cam broke is to remove one valve cover and crank the engine over and see if any of the rocker arms move.

As far as used engines go.
www.autosportsunlimited.com
www.roverlandparts.com
www.car-part.com

Also check e-bay and Craig's List.
It is not very likely but it is possible that all cylinders have at least one valve stuck open if the cam broke.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Go to roverguy.com. His name is Will Tillery, he can get you a good motor for cheaper then any I could find and no core charge. Good luck. Chris
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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and there is Trevor at roverlab.com here near Hershey, PA.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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If the timing chain were to break, would that cause the cam to not function?
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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you guys should know this one by now


car-parts.com
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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I am curious as to if the crank or something else broke then how is it cranking over? For all the catastophic engine failures I have ever had it would not crank over any more with shattered pistons or broken rods.

I would personally bring it home and pull the oil pan and the valve covers and see what you see. If it looks normal and there are no chunks falling out then I would turn it over by hand and see what it is doing.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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That Rover dealer is trying to milk the cash cow.

Tow it home, and swap that engine on your own time.

It took me and two other guys 13 hours to swap mine, and that was with problem after problem popping up. Oh, and an hour lunch.
 
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