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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Default So why are all my bolts breaking?

Is this a normal thing with the 4.0 engine?
Just swapping PAS pump and I got 3 already broke for that bracket.
And they are not breaking on removal, but on install, and not even 1 ft pound of torque applied yet. I was able to unscrew 2 from the block by hand after they broke, so 100% not overtightened.
But should I expect this with any basic repair?
I like my rover a lil less today.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Sometimes good idea on older equipment to clean bolts very good with wire briush, and use a tap of the correct size to chase gunk out of the bolt hole. It also helps to light a big fire for the Rover gods, women dancing, fresh meat on the fire, and plenty of distilled spirits. If Murphy (of Murphy's Law) sees you are making too rapid a progress on your journey, sockets start to roll into hidden spaces, etc.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Savannah Buzz
Sometimes good idea on older equipment to clean bolts very good with wire briush, and use a tap of the correct size to chase gunk out of the bolt hole. It also helps to light a big fire for the Rover gods, women dancing, fresh meat on the fire, and plenty of distilled spirits. If Murphy (of Murphy's Law) sees you are making too rapid a progress on your journey, sockets start to roll into hidden spaces, etc.
LOL... Too Funny...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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I vote for corrosion due to dissimilar metals. Were the bolts in pretty rough shape?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Personally I take the time when I pull my bolts and screws to order new ones from McMaster at a higher quality. Generally speaking the factory never uses anything that is meant to last longer than the warranty; if even that. Anything that isn't stainless steel will be corroded and generally speaking Land Rover never used anything that I would consider better than required.

But most manufactures half *** a lot of parts. Very few do unfortunately.

So my point is, buy new hardware. McMaster has a great selection online or go to Grainger or Ace. What ever your local hardware store might be.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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The bolts looked beautiful, not even a second glance they were clean, no corrosion.
I put them in finger tight, and first easy twist with the socket and snap, I was certain the bracket had just popped on a hair.
So I am aligning with the rover, expect the unexpected.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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no, just expect everything to break, leak and generally be a pain in the *** during all future LR endevours
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Savannah Buzz
Sometimes good idea on older equipment to clean bolts very good with wire briush, and use a tap of the correct size to chase gunk out of the bolt hole. It also helps to light a big fire for the Rover gods, women dancing, fresh meat on the fire, and plenty of distilled spirits. If Murphy (of Murphy's Law) sees you are making too rapid a progress on your journey, sockets start to roll into hidden spaces, etc.
I heard Scotch works best, preferably single malt.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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More Scotch, less Red Bull, and put down that 36 inch cheater bar....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Well after that frustrating incident with the bolts.
It all came back together fine.
My PAS Gasket repair is holding, steering works great.
The insanely loud squeal is gone and I can hear the motor finally.
Sounds like 40 or 50 of the lifters are chattering, a few hundred of the
push rods are tinking and all 16 cylinders must have exhaust leaks.
Well, not that bad but you get the point.
 
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