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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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What is the lowest reading you ever get? So hot engine, on a hot day, in Drive at a stop. With air temps near 100F, I get sub 10 psi readings. If I put the transmission in Park, it will increase a few psi.

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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That is about normal for a hot day at idle.
If you really want to check your pump, test it stone cold at idle and 2000 RPM's and again when hot at idle and 2000 RPM's. Let us know what those reading are.
Do you have any engine noise and what weight oil are you running?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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IMHO you have a combination of oil pump problems (many have posted photos of cracked ones that continue to pump, just not enough) and low oil viscosity (are you running something-W-40 or 50). 10W30 is only speced in the factory manual for a high end of 95 degrees F.

The oil warning switch comes on at like 8 PSI, so you are wearing out that precious metal at a very fast rate. I'm thinking there have been posts of 20 PSI or so for warm idle.

If you have 10W30 now, swap to 15w40 and see how much it improves. If you are where it stays warm, 20W50.

From RAVE workshop manual, general data:

Pressure at idle (Cold) 3.0 bar (43.5 lbf.in2)
Pressure at 3500 rev/min (Hot) 1.5-3.0 bar (21.75-43.5 lbf.in2)
Relief valve opening pressure 4.0 bar (58 lbf.in2)
Low oil pressure switch opening pressure 0.2-0.6 bar (3.0-8.8 lbf.in2)

Before you start taking the front cover off, read the recent posts about that very thing. At the same time you can do water pump and timing chain and front crank seal.

You do realize that it should be considered a good thing that you have caught this. You may be able to change oil viscosity and keep rolling while you build up the parts cabinet, get wife's car out of the warm garage, etc.
 

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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This is an older short block from a RR. New oil pump, so if the readings are low, it's due to internal wear. I'm running 10/40. I live in PHoenix, could I get away with 20w/50? Or maybe I'm making an issue outta something that really isn't a problem. The sub 10 psi readings only occur when really hot.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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Book says you can run 20W50 same as 10W40, about 15 - 125 F, might be good for your elevated temps.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan H
This is an older short block from a RR. New oil pump, so if the readings are low, it's due to internal wear. I'm running 10/40. I live in PHoenix, could I get away with 20w/50? Or maybe I'm making an issue outta something that really isn't a problem. The sub 10 psi readings only occur when really hot.
Yes you can run 20w-50 with no problems, you can even run it in the winter time down there.

As for the 10psi at a hot idle, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill, that is perfectly normal, the oil is hot and thin and thats what happens.
Switching to 20w-50 will solve that "problem" for sure.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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We didn't ask - but what kind of PSI do you get at say 50 - 60 mph?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:42 PM
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Once hot, I'd get 32 or so on the highway.

Just finished changing to 20/50, so we'll see how it does tomorrow.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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Hopefully you have caught this before it cost $$$$!
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 04:50 AM
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I have a number of vehicles I own and use at the office, and I would be concerned about 32 PSI while driving. My high miles Mercedes does over 3 bar (43.5 PSI), and idles at 1 bar (14.5) to 1.5 bar. And can outleak the Disco in quantity, just not from as many places.

On the other hand, you are middle of the range for RAVE spec. If the 20W50 does not bring things up, might want to inspect or replace that oil pump.
 

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