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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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As much as I would like to agree with you 80's old school I'm afraid I disagree. The D2 and subsequent models will never be valuable as too many were made and distributed worldwide, vis the Series LR's today, many are changing hands mega cheap whereas the last of the Defender's were grossly over priced because some thought they would make a 'killing' on them they are now selling for normal(ish) prices although some still believe theirs is invaluable even today.

It is the same for the Pajero market, many waste their time and money with bolt on goodies from Ebay etc but there were far too many produced from Japan and even the oldies are not worth very much unless they are kosher Paris Dakar machines.

Another problem is that diesels especially are being phased out and sooner or later will be banned from the highways as the eco people are winning the arguments even in the US and europe is full of ancient diesels at present but over time they will be priced off the roads.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OffroadFrance
As much as I would like to agree with you 80's old school I'm afraid I disagree. The D2 and subsequent models will never be valuable as too many were made and distributed worldwide, vis the Series LR's today, many are changing hands mega cheap whereas the last of the Defender's were grossly over priced because some thought they would make a 'killing' on them they are now selling for normal(ish) prices although some still believe theirs is invaluable even today.

It is the same for the Pajero market, many waste their time and money with bolt on goodies from Ebay etc but there were far too many produced from Japan and even the oldies are not worth very much unless they are kosher Paris Dakar machines.

Another problem is that diesels especially are being phased out and sooner or later will be banned from the highways as the eco people are winning the arguments even in the US and europe is full of ancient diesels at present but over time they will be priced off the roads.
Off-Road France... while I agree they don't have the draw as Defenders did.... and never will.
Do you care to enter in a little wager?
if the current US values ($2000) quadruple ($8000) by 2022, you come to California and I will buy you a beer... if they don't.. I will come to France and you can buy me a beer!!

To the Original Poster... I have passed this info to a buddy of mine in Texas.
If you don't want her... let's get the car sold to someone who will love her.
 

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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OffroadFrance
As much as I would like to agree with you 80's old school I'm afraid I disagree. The D2 and subsequent models will never be valuable as too many were made and distributed worldwide
I do wonder how many will actually be left in nice running and driving condition in a decade, though. I feel like, while there is never a shortage on CL in the US, 9 out of 10 for sale are absolute garbage and 80% of those will be in a salvage yard in 10 years. Even if they just need HG, I bet with the price being what it is today, they'll get scrapped.

Oddly, until last month there were four D2's within a block of my house. An '01 was just scrapped over needing a transfer case, my '04 needs an engine, a 99-02 (?) has not moved since last April and the Silver '03 (owned by the same guy who scrapped the '01) is the only true DD. But it has the amigos and idles at 203.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 80's old school
Off-Road France... while I agree they don't have the draw as Defenders did.... and never will.
Do you care to enter in a little wager?
if the current US values ($2000) quadruple ($8000) by 2022, you come to California and I will buy you a beer... if they don't.. I will come to France and you can buy me a beer!!

To the Original Poster... I have passed this info to a buddy of mine in Texas.
If you don't want her... let's get the car sold to someone who will love her.
I'd love to take your money 80's old school (nah, I wouldn't really want to take your cash), but, I'll probably be 'pushing up the daisies' by 2022 I'm afraid if family genetics are true to form. I'll buy you a beer in France anyways, but I still believe you're wasting your time expecting old D2's to appreciate.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 08:42 PM
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Thanks everyone, I didn't expect the amount of responses that I received. In a way, I am kind of inclined to agree that the clean examples will see a spike in value in years to come. Regardless of the amount produced, it seems like whenever a cult classic falls in value enough, many are abused and scrapped early or driven into the ground. Coupled with the cost of maintenance (head gasket etc) and the tendency for frame rot, I think we will see a lot fewer survive the next five years or so

I saw this ​​​​​​happen years ago, bmw e30 were mass produced and became nearly worthless. Right out of high school I was working at a shop and almost picked up a clean 1990 M3 with 70k miles for 7500 dollars. The same cars now sell for 50,000 in that condition, and plain Jane 325i will get 10k if clean when it would have been 3,000 5 years back. I don't think they will ever reach M3 status as those were far more limited but it would be feasible to see the clean discovery fetching more than they sell for now anyway
 
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 09:01 PM
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Although I personally don't think the Disco will ever be worth any money as they are temperamental and idiosyncratic and frankly not as trouble free as many classics, they will always have a cult following.

I too lament the death of the E30 as I had 4 over the years and know them better than I'd like to admit. With a family now, one doesn't make sense and thus why I am tolerating the PITA the Disco is.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 06:41 PM
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21,500,000 VW beetles were made. They were slow, unreliable, full of quirks and idiosyncrasies.

Try to buy a good one cheap now.... Ain't gonna happen.

Now I am not saying that our Discos will ever reach cult VW bug status, but I am still standing by my statement that they will quadruple in 5 years.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by longtallsally
Although I personally don't think the Disco will ever be worth any money as they are temperamental and idiosyncratic and frankly not as trouble free as many classics, they will always have a cult following.

I too lament the death of the E30 as I had 4 over the years and know them better than I'd like to admit. With a family now, one doesn't make sense and thus why I am tolerating the PITA the Disco is.
I had a ​​​​lot of e36's, e34, e32 and a few random. Currently have a 335 and a 135 but when the baby came this was the answer
 
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 10:07 PM
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Nice to see some BMW people here... I've owned this e30 since I was in high school (13 years), I'm currently wiring up the 6th different engine it's had over this period. I've only blown up one of them, the others have just been changed for fun/stupidity. The e39 m5 is my second, it's my DD/road trip vehicle/dog hauler, and it's just an awesome car for the money- I do think e39 m5's are going to rise in value someday as well



Back on topic- Why are you selling? I think your sale projections are pretty realistic, selling the lift and wheel/tire setup separately, but thats so little money for what you have there... I think in many cases DII's are worth more to own than sell. I'm kind of in the same boat with mine, which is actually pretty similar to yours- it just has a bunch of small needs that add up to be a pretty significant list. I was toying around with the idea of selling mine and picking up an L322 Range for cheap, but I may just keep the DII and have both.
 

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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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cool!! The reason I "just" got into buying a discovery is I have a 2012 BMW 535i X-drive.

We were struggling going to our SoCal mountain house in Lake Arrowhead with our all wheel drive BMW. Our snow berm was sometimes over 1 foot high and the BMW would simply could not go.... The snow level was too high... I decided to buy the Land Rover I always "Wanted to buy".

The Land Rover solves the snow problem as well as gives me something fun to do on the trails up at our mountain house.
 
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