Want D2 badly but broke college student! *HELP*
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Carparter...
the problem with some of these comments, they are wanting you to buy a D2 also. Most of us, have years of experience, that experience takes years to mold. Most of us own our homes, have a decent income, have time to spend on a needy vehicle.
you're in college. You're creating massive Bill's on the daily. You're time should be spent on studying and grades and not wasted on posting help threads on a forum and hours of troubleshooting. Youd be much better off researching a vehicle with much better mileage, higher reliability ratings, and cheaper easier maintenance.
Graduate, get that job, buy the house and then build a massive garage and buy all the rovers you like and come back here and help us all out. Your life will be better for it.
the problem with some of these comments, they are wanting you to buy a D2 also. Most of us, have years of experience, that experience takes years to mold. Most of us own our homes, have a decent income, have time to spend on a needy vehicle.
you're in college. You're creating massive Bill's on the daily. You're time should be spent on studying and grades and not wasted on posting help threads on a forum and hours of troubleshooting. Youd be much better off researching a vehicle with much better mileage, higher reliability ratings, and cheaper easier maintenance.
Graduate, get that job, buy the house and then build a massive garage and buy all the rovers you like and come back here and help us all out. Your life will be better for it.
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Mudding
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Thanks for your concern guys! College's are definitely overpriced these days and are NOTHING what they used to be back when our parents went to school. The reason college thrives and makes money is mostly due to parents having obsolete beliefs and pressuring their kids into getting a degree.
I just graduated college with a Bachelor of Science in Petroleum Engineering and currently going for a Master's Degree. Fortunately, college is free for me, as I have a full-ride scholarship, as I play chess for our university. Otherwise, I would have never been able to afford it. And even if my parents had money, I would never allow them to pay those outrageous tuition bills, as the quality of teaching is very low when you sit in a class with 250+ other students. Professors also feel obsolete and don't have any experience in teaching others; while the university is upselling you $20 books for $300 because they have an agreement with that book's publisher.
Besides college, I am also an owner of an e-commerce business that is growing rapidly. I am not 100% *broke* but my budget is identical to that of a *broke* college student, as whatever I make goes back into the business.
I just graduated college with a Bachelor of Science in Petroleum Engineering and currently going for a Master's Degree. Fortunately, college is free for me, as I have a full-ride scholarship, as I play chess for our university. Otherwise, I would have never been able to afford it. And even if my parents had money, I would never allow them to pay those outrageous tuition bills, as the quality of teaching is very low when you sit in a class with 250+ other students. Professors also feel obsolete and don't have any experience in teaching others; while the university is upselling you $20 books for $300 because they have an agreement with that book's publisher.
Besides college, I am also an owner of an e-commerce business that is growing rapidly. I am not 100% *broke* but my budget is identical to that of a *broke* college student, as whatever I make goes back into the business.
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Unless it's a STEM degree college is a waste of time and money. Supply vs. demand. What's a degree worth when everyone else has one? Nothing. Also if you've been paying attention to economic news you know houses are unaffordable. He's not getting a Rover garage unless he's moving to an lousy Rural area or mortgaging at least $600k.
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Mudding
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Been doing research all night. So far I've stumbled a very informative YT video on liner slippage. It does look like a serious problem though. In the video, the guy replaced the liners with Turner aftermarket ones with O-rings. There was also a concern about a "hairline crack" leaking coolant. So one of the piston heads was cleaned by the coolant steam while other heads were dirty.
Anyone here dealt with the liner slippage that could share his (or her?) experience
Thanks!
Anyone here dealt with the liner slippage that could share his (or her?) experience
Thanks!
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Been doing research all night. So far I've stumbled a very informative YT video on liner slippage. It does look like a serious problem though. In the video, the guy replaced the liners with Turner aftermarket ones with O-rings. There was also a concern about a "hairline crack" leaking coolant. So one of the piston heads was cleaned by the coolant steam while other heads were dirty.
Anyone here dealt with the liner slippage that could share his (or her?) experience Thanks!
Anyone here dealt with the liner slippage that could share his (or her?) experience
Thanks!A simple drill and tap through the bottom of the block into the sleeve itself.
Pay no attention to the negative comments either.
These things will eat all of your time, and as much money as you want to spend.
TReK
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6K is enough to get you either a fully sorted D2 that will serve you reliably, or a good project truck for less than $1500 with plenty of funds that you can sort yourself so you make sure it is reliable. Your color and interior choice is a bit specific, but doable.
I would not get an 04, the engines in those are the worst as are the roof rails. No roof rail extension available and not cross load bars available and retrofitting is a giant pita. The only redeeming quality of the 04 is the transfer case CDL and that is easily retrofitted.
The 4.6 vs the 4.0 is highly overrated - I currently have two 4.6 and three 4.0's, can't tell any difference in power but I can tell you the 4.0's almost never have slipped cylinders and you can get non-SAI 4.0's (easier to work on), I have never seen a non-SAI 4.6. My 4.0's get about 1-2 mpg better too. The 4.6's were the only ones that had the oil pump issue but most of those are gone now.
Some good advice on here, but here are my recommendations on what to look for:
Must:
Southern or western truck ie no rust
Wants
Non-SE7 - I prefer the saddlebags to the cargo seats - but that is personal choice.
Some considerations when you are shopping
Bumpers - steel or stock?
If you get an enthusiast truck it could already have the steel which is good, a fixer upper or stocker will have the plastic that crack if you look at them hard.
Wheels - 18" or 16"
The 18's handle better on road around corners, and it is a more popular tire size now. The 16's have a larger sidewall, generally ride softer, and seem to be preferred for MT or AT tires and for rock crawling builds.
Low mileage without 100k service or 100k + miles with service (HG, coils, wires, CPS, etc). This goes to the fixer upper vs fully sorted decision. Here are some mileage estimates for major component replacements based on my experience with 9 Discos with mileage between 97k and 230k.
I would not get an 04, the engines in those are the worst as are the roof rails. No roof rail extension available and not cross load bars available and retrofitting is a giant pita. The only redeeming quality of the 04 is the transfer case CDL and that is easily retrofitted.
The 4.6 vs the 4.0 is highly overrated - I currently have two 4.6 and three 4.0's, can't tell any difference in power but I can tell you the 4.0's almost never have slipped cylinders and you can get non-SAI 4.0's (easier to work on), I have never seen a non-SAI 4.6. My 4.0's get about 1-2 mpg better too. The 4.6's were the only ones that had the oil pump issue but most of those are gone now.
Some good advice on here, but here are my recommendations on what to look for:
Must:
Southern or western truck ie no rust
Wants
Non-SE7 - I prefer the saddlebags to the cargo seats - but that is personal choice.
Some considerations when you are shopping
Bumpers - steel or stock?
If you get an enthusiast truck it could already have the steel which is good, a fixer upper or stocker will have the plastic that crack if you look at them hard.
Wheels - 18" or 16"
The 18's handle better on road around corners, and it is a more popular tire size now. The 16's have a larger sidewall, generally ride softer, and seem to be preferred for MT or AT tires and for rock crawling builds.
Low mileage without 100k service or 100k + miles with service (HG, coils, wires, CPS, etc). This goes to the fixer upper vs fully sorted decision. Here are some mileage estimates for major component replacements based on my experience with 9 Discos with mileage between 97k and 230k.
- HG - 1st round 100-140k
- Starter - 180-200k
- Coils - 120-140k
- Water pump - 120-140k
- Axle hubs (three amigo issue) 180-200k
- Front Driveshaft - 150-170k
- Hoses/catch tank/radiator tank cracks - 170-200k
- PS pump - 150-170k
- Master Cylinder reservoir seal - 120-140k
- Air suspension - I personally like this, great for towing and off-road, the problems are highly overstated in my opinion. Usually only on the HSE's
- ACE - I also like this, the handling is incredible. Usually only on 01 or earlier, the one I had with this had 176k on it and worked flawlessly without leaking.
- Harmon Kardon sound system - very common option, excellent sound system except the foam surrounds on the subs disintegrate over the years - they can be repaired/replaced and sound great.
- S vs SE (vinyl and sunroof delete) - common on 03+, the vinyl is very poor quality and I do not recommend it. The sunroof delete is ok, but I actually like the sunroofs. They don't leak once you know how to prevent the leaks and keep them functioning
- Backup sensors - pretty rare, I have one with this. A good option if you have the factory plastic bumpers, might help prevent breaking the factory bumper cover.
- Becker Traffic pro radio with GPS - usually only found on the 03+. Obsolete technology for the most part - usually has display issues - I recommend the oem cassette with cd changer under the seat - you can obviously replace with more modern options.
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