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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mollusc
That plug is not the ABS plug. ABS plugs are round with two pins, and are often white or yellow.
I am not sure what that is for -- it is a long time since I had a truck with SLS. You should search for the D2 Electrical Library and use the wire colours and location to identify the plug.

If you do not have an ABS sensor, you will not have any functional ABS or traction control and you will have error lights on the dash.

Where is the D2 electrical library? I know of the Rave Manual. Never heard of the electrical library before.

 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ACEBROKE2
1) Right Side
2) Not a parking sensor. No Parking Sensors were included with stock Land Rover Discovery 2
3) Not the Tow Harness
4) Not the plug for the rear AC

What direction? You know nothing about these cars.
Yer right. I know nothing of them. Sorry I tried to help. Read the RAVE and learn to use Google and perhaps you can find a solution- to include finding the electrical library manual. At least that’s how I did it in all my ignorance.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ACEBROKE2
1) Right Side
2) Not a parking sensor. No Parking Sensors were included with stock Land Rover Discovery 2
WRONG. Some versions came with parking sensors.

Originally Posted by ACEBROKE2
3) Not the Tow Harness
4) Not the plug for the rear AC

What direction? You know nothing about these cars.
People are trying to help you and you insult them? Your attitude has been very prickly from the outset. You have asked multiple times about the black plug and I've given you suggestions as to how you could work out what it is, but then you go off an another tangent and don't even acknowledge that YOU asked the plug question.

Where to find the D2 Electrical Library? How about you SEARCH FOR IT. I've given you the name to look for.

For videos, post them to YouTube and embed the link in your post. (That's called UPloading, by the way. DOWNloading is getting something FROM a site.)
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mollusc
WRONG. Some versions came with parking sensors.



People are trying to help you and you insult them? Your attitude has been very prickly from the outset. You have asked multiple times about the black plug and I've given you suggestions as to how you could work out what it is, but then you go off an another tangent and don't even acknowledge that YOU asked the plug question.

Where to find the D2 Electrical Library? How about you SEARCH FOR IT. I've given you the name to look for.

For videos, post them to YouTube and embed the link in your post. (That's called UPloading, by the way. DOWNloading is getting something FROM a site.)
You mean Navigation Systems. I've owned these cars since 2004. Never heard of stock parking sensors offered. Only aftermarket products. If they were part of the original NAV package I don't know. She is saying things not relevant to the problem. I am in urgent emergency situation and was irritated. Yes I searched for it and am looking through the photos.



 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEBROKE2
You mean Navigation Systems. I've owned these cars since 2004. Never heard of stock parking sensors offered. Only aftermarket products. If they were part of the original NAV package I don't know. She is saying things not relevant to the problem. I am in urgent emergency situation and was irritated. Yes I searched for it and am looking through the photos.
You need to find another forum, sport. I have 2 D2s, BOTH of which have parking sensors, from the factory. One also came from the factory with a NAV system. They are not related. In all your brilliance, you would find the entire system (both of them) detailed in the RAVE manual.

Option sets, models, drivetrains, and even names vary dramatically on what market the machine was sold- thus the questions I asked as a means of learning more about the machine.

In “searching” all of this is very easily found and readily apparent, as would be the answers to your questions. But then again, knowing how to spell hydraulics would also have become apparent.

Taking out your frustrations on those trying to help you in one of the nicest forums on the internet really speaks to your character. I’ll bow out now and let you bask in all your…. whatever it is.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 03:12 PM
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And yet you don't know what the black plug is. I am qualified to be here. I am Rover overlanding in a foreign country now. Your questions do not answer what the black plug is.

Anyone please help.

I am concerned about my ABS line being stolen. I did not remove or reroute it. There is a fresh mark where the guy put his fist . You can see it in the photo. It was washed the same day. I wash the car almost every time I can find a self service wash.My perfect maintained vehicle is making new rattling noises - after it left the shop. The air pump is coming on more frequently - after it left the shop. The transmission was shifting at 40MPH instead of 30MPH - after it left the shop. The spring blew up the next day - after I left the shop. Notice a pattern here????

The guys told me there is a severe shortage of junked rover V8 parts in this area and I should be careful who I trust with such a nice car no matter how nice they seem.

Does anyone know what the black plug connects to? I have to be careful I'm overseas, I'm trying to cross into a corner of Ukraine so I can say I did it. Then Romania then Moldova.

Anyone please help please.














 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 01:25 AM
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Black plug is a mystery to me.

It's right rear, yes?

Not rear HVAC (that's Left rear, if fitted)

Electrical library is the 3rd most important reference document for a D2 behind Rave and Electrical diagrams. Download it here mate. Shows every connector on the car. It will be in here. https://landroverforums.com/forum/at...al-library.pdf

This is why the electrical library is helpful. So I found the connector for the RIGHT REAR ABS sensor in the electrical library and sure enough, I can see that other connector you have disconnected. See it here?

ABS connector has the red arrow going to it. Red box around your mystery connector.


What is interesting is *** NOWHERE *** can I find this connector in the manual. Oh well. You might have to go page by page thru the thing to find it.

It's not for the height sensor wiring is it? Or the fuel tank leak detection pump (emissions ? related depending upon market)?




 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 04:56 PM
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Yes, sir. Thank you sir, I really appreciate your help on this. I tried to find the correct picture but I missed it. Thank you for helping me with these questions.

This looks like the plug for the ABS but I don't know. The plug It's in that sport for a reason. Someone had to have tucked it up there. .To me that says the shop stole whatever it was attached to to. And since the ABS is missing it is probably related to the AB wire. . I was in gravel and rocks that plug would have been shook lose or hanging. I can't 100% tell if it's for the ABS system or something else. It's not the height sensor wiring. It might be something related to the fuel But I think that's near the fuel pump right?. I am smelling a faint fuel smell in the cabin but we put so many things in these cars. It could be something else I don't know. .

Before trying this mechanic I was extorted by a mechanic in Serbia. The guy held the vehicle making up lies and excuses for 69 days until the last day claiming 24 hour labor for doing almost nothing - demanding 86,000,00 RSD or he doubles the invoice. The police don't give a damn if he holds the vehicle. Only that I did not export it. It was the last day when the Serb police would confiscate the vehicle for overstay. Pay what I say - or lose the vehicle. Bold faced bull**** extortion. I inspected the vehicle after I got it back replaced all the fluids checked everything for set ups. Only thing I found was his fist mark on the hood.

I had to get it out of Serbia and bring it to this new guy in a neighboring country.. The GBR front drive shaft nipple mating to the front was taken off. I caught it. He said he didn't take it off and puts another larger nipple back from a different shaft but doesn't put any grease in it. Today I got it greased to the max by an honest guy. He wanted 10 EUR for this and a quick inspection but I gave him way more - because he was honest and kind. I hate how people in these parts want to profit from dishonestly. 1 hour job always turns into a 5 hour job - only because you have a Western passport.

Today the rattling noise returned and went away. I am really worried about the car that something was done to destroy it. Once you get past the starry eyes tourist stage and start living in a place - you quickly learn these people see you as nothing but a target to exploit. I don't have time to list the stories of attempted set ups, misdirection, and extortion attempts. The list is so long and nobody wants to listen. But if you come out to Eastern Europe you have been warned. I wish I could talk to that guy on here who lives in Arad Romania. He was obviously better than me speaks Romanian or must have had a Romanian wife- because he overcame it.

What future problems could happen without this ABS sensor? THIS is what the Rover sounds like now after leaving the new shop:

https://streamable.com/c79lne

https://streamable.com/7yd9ml








 

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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 07:42 PM
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Are all of your dash warning lights on? Like ABS, traction control, HDC and BRAKE? (and maybe more)?

If you were literally *missing* an ABS sensor, they would all be on, steady, red and yellow.

ABS sensor plug definitely does not look like that black plug. 100% definitely not. Unless someone cut it and put that odd Bosch AMP Junior Power Timer (that is what those are called btw) connector on there. ABS sensor is a rudimentary 2 pole I think proprietary LR thing. Usually though, the ABS sensor connectors on the body harness have been bypassed on well used trucks and it's a solid wire all the way back to the SLABS ECU main connector by now in 2024. There was a service bulletin to do this and new rear ABS sensors come with a 12 or 15 (I haven't measured but it's quite long) wire that is for this purpose. Because the connections were dodgy in the wheel wells. (EDIT: Or someone would have just spliced it into the harness using waterproof connectors or shrink wrap, also a good repair)
 

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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 06:58 AM
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No lights are on. 100% perfect. SRS only comes on occasionally. I gave up on trying to fix it myself .Paid IMO one of the best mechanics in SoCal to fix it. He was a really great Rover guy. He was successful - but after a long time it returned. So I gave up on trying to isolate it. Everything else is 100% perfect on the dash.

Nanocom says there is a power issues but I'm having some problems with an old electrical job. The light bar and which stopped working. I took it to an electrician mechanic with a lighting bolt sign near Novi Sad. He said park it outside. 1 week paying hotel calling every day with him leading me on. I come back he said he couldn't find the problem but did allot of electrical testing in is shop and must be compensated for his hard work. He wanted 200 EUR cash for his time. He says many days it took up the space in his shop for other cars. I showed him the coin I put on top of the tire and the camera in my vehicle. It was parked in the same ****ing spot. The son of a bitch demanded 200 EUR for doing nothing to vehicle. I said no. He got angry and said to pay. I refused left. Keys in hand before.

Calling Lawyers in Serbia does nothing. RS citizens get 30-40 EUR per hour or less. Americans get 200-300 EU per hour. I had them qoute me crazy prices. 450 EUR for a job I know takes 15 minutes. Another 1000 EUR for picking up the phone. Another demanded 150 EUR for a a job he knew would be denied. Another stole 250 EUR for 20 min work and made threats to steal my property. Others quit jobs, scammed. 3 of 4 service providers in RS did this also. There is more - to too much to list. Only 1 attorney was honest. A very nice nice older Hungarian man who simply did the job. But later he git greedy changed his price from 50 EUR to 100 EUR hour. That's his choice but I can say no. All other attorney's but him is lazy time wasting scum. They do 6 months law school in RS. You pay for Hollywood smiles who want to bled you out. The bar association is a website nobody answering the phone or returning emails. All the locals I talk to said the same thing. They said unless is contingency situation attorney in RS is waste of time.

Aside from SLS and winch and light bar not working everything else is is perfect on the vehicle. I need to find an electrician in the area because the rural roads in Eastern Europe many don't have street lights you drive through pitch black and many are not paved. It's next after I fix whatever could be wrong with this car now... There are 2 new noises you can see in the videos.. . One is the SLS pump which is now over active. The other is rattling coming from the transmission drain plug area.

Thank you for the Rover Service Bulletins. You are very knowledgeable to remember this. I absolutely did not know this about the vehicle's past and I've owned it a very long time. Do you think the black plug is just an extension cord for a camping light or something? Honest to goodness this is the first time I have noticed it. I am in the parking lot now taking pictures of every single part of the vehicle I can get my phone into without taking it apart.










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