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I would be calling the Better Business Beura.
I would also post pics and details on their junk everywhere I could.
I belive in treating people fairly and standing behind you work and products, and if your business can't do that, then the world is gonna know about it.
I'm not going to call the BBB, but he did lose a customer, and maybe more. He could have easily just sent a new pair of springs. Worst case they didn't work and I'd have moved on in good spirit.
Originally Posted by The Deputy
Out of curiosity, how does the rig sit when it's completely unloaded (besides what you can't remove)? Just removing the rear seats takes a bunch of weight out (did that too), those things were beasts.
This whole thing just doesn't set well, glad you came forward with your findings.
Brian.
No idea, it's never been unloaded!
Originally Posted by Best4x4
I’ve never had any RTE springs sag, but maybe I’ve been lucky.
Originally Posted by Frank4
Same here. I’ve had multiple sets with zero issues. Other than Simon trying to sell me everything in his inventory he’s always pleasant.
Yeah, I don't know. I really don't think its my cargo weight, or else I wouldn't have had great ride height right after installation. It was crazy to measure the height only 6 weeks later and see a 2-3" drop. On top of that, the front right is 1" lower than the left
I don't think a spacer is a fix to the problem. I know these things have a heavy weight bias in the rear, so even removing a bit of weight out back, but then adding weight to the front will actually put more pressure on the rear.
What's the spring rate for the RTE rear springs? My crappy TF HD springs have the opposite problem. I can add 400# to the rear and they don't budge. My rear end sits about 1" higher than the front as of now.
I know it sucks, but maybe switch to a different brand. I wouldn't recommend TF as mine are starting to rust after just 2 years, but maybe OME would be a better choice?
Is that for 3" of lift?
A medium or heavy duty spring?
A lift is next on my list.
Thanks for all the info.
Hopeful, but doubtful. OME specs say roughly 1.5", but it's going to depend a lot on loaded weight. I might get more. It's the heaviest duty spring available for the D2. If you are not constantly carrying 440+ pounds of extra weight, these are not the right springs.
Rear springs and shocks are in! Net result: a gain of 3" over the RTE's
I made a judgement call and put the 2" spacers in, boy was that job a pain in the ***. Had to use spring compressors to shrink them down about 3", and thats with the body and axle fully separated with a jack. Floor jack, 2x 6 ton jack stands, a dozen wood boards, 1 jack for each side of the axle, and 1 jack between axle and body.
Setup (rear)
OME 763 springs
Terrafirma 4 stage adjustable +3" (went with these as they were super cheap, and the longest shock available)
D1 spring seats
Top spring isolators
Lower Spring retainers
Terrafirma 2" spacers
And the result... 23" from wheel hub to fender on both sides. That's a gain of 3", for a total lift of 3.5" (I believe stock measurement is 19.5") . Not including the spacers, that's a gain of an inch over the RTE's, despite the RTE's being 3/4" longer.
Observations
- OME's look MUCH less beefier than the RTE's. Smaller coil diameter, shorter, and fewer coils.
- OME's are less than half the price
We will see how the measurements look again in a few weeks. Now to fix the oil leak at the rear diff flange.
