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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:55 PM
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I can't believe this hasn't been said but, You need to take it back to the tire shop NOW. Stop touching it. They used the wrong sized socket on your lug nuts. It boogered up the SS caps and the nuts became jammed in the socket. Then they beat the lug nut out further distorting the end of the cap.
This repair is not on you, they need to replace your lug nuts. Period.
fishEH, I agree I think that's what happened too. The guy at the tire place offered to replace the one on the spare tire (without the dimple) because I can't even get the emergency tool around it. He didn't really accept responsibility and simply said they used a standard socket tool and had no problems.

I guess I'm wondering how concerned I should be before I press the matter too hard. Is it not normal to have to use a rubber mallet or tool to tap the emergency lug nut tool on?

BTW, those nuts with the dimple on the end are only to be used on your spare tire.
I'm going to have him put the lug nut with a dimple back on the spare. But out of curiosity, how are these nuts different from the others? Could you not use them on the wheels in a pinch if you had to?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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E-mail Paul Grant as I'm sure he has hundreds if not thousands of used lug nuts.
I am also new to forums apparently and can't figure out how to look up this persons contact info.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jafir
None that I've seen will work on a land rover alloy wheel. Have you seen how big the holes are in the wheel?
Yup, the only part that matters is where it mates.

Thanks to Bimmer, we have a Euro-Gm amalgamation there, and one can get away with tuner nuts... My Tire Store (yeah my Stealership is large enough we actually own a Tire Factory Franchise) tried to hose me on Tuners, until they re-applied mine... Bam!!!!!!!!!! (Trailer park Boys Uncle Phil inflection, please) I saved $50.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 06:03 AM
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check your owners manual i "believe" they are of a different pitch, if they are; then it would mean you have studs on the hub and spare carrier that need to be replaced also.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Axlerod
Yup, the only part that matters is where it mates. Thanks to Bimmer, we have a Euro-Gm amalgamation there, and one can get away with tuner nuts... My Tire Store (yeah my Stealership is large enough we actually own a Tire Factory Franchise) tried to hose me on Tuners, until they re-applied mine... Bam!!!!!!!!!! (Trailer park Boys Uncle Phil inflection, please) I saved $50.
You'll have to prove it with photos. The hole in the wheel is bigger than most "tuner" lug nuts. They'd fall right through the hole. So it wouldn't "mate" anywhere.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jafir
You'll have to prove it with photos. The hole in the wheel is bigger than most "tuner" lug nuts. They'd fall right through the hole. So it wouldn't "mate" anywhere.
Pretty sure I saw that Sir Axlerod is running chevy steel wheels. So he may be speaking about steel wheels.

There are no tuner lugs I have seen that would work with D2 alloys.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Drubie22
fishEH, I agree I think that's what happened too. The guy at the tire place offered to replace the one on the spare tire (without the dimple) because I can't even get the emergency tool around it. He didn't really accept responsibility and simply said they used a standard socket tool and had no problems.

I guess I'm wondering how concerned I should be before I press the matter too hard. Is it not normal to have to use a rubber mallet or tool to tap the emergency lug nut tool on?



I'm going to have him put the lug nut with a dimple back on the spare. But out of curiosity, how are these nuts different from the others? Could you not use them on the wheels in a pinch if you had to?
If it were me, I'd go back in there and ask to see their "standard socket tool". See what size it is. Anything other than a 27mm and they screwed up your lugs. Hand them your tire iron and ask them to remove a tire with it. They probably aren't going to take responsibility unless you back them into a corner. If you paid with a Credit Card you can dispute the charge until they make good on the nuts.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by drowssap
check your owners manual i "believe" they are of a different pitch, if they are; then it would mean you have studs on the hub and spare carrier that need to be replaced also.


OMG this is turning into a hellish nightmare! Given the ineptitude shown by screwing up the lug nuts, I have no idea if the mechanic didn't try to bolt the "spare" lug nut onto other studs as well.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fishEH
If it were me, I'd go back in there and ask to see their "standard socket tool". See what size it is. Anything other than a 27mm and they screwed up your lugs. Hand them your tire iron and ask them to remove a tire with it. They probably aren't going to take responsibility unless you back them into a corner. If you paid with a Credit Card you can dispute the charge until they make good on the nuts.


That's a good idea actually. But with a rubber mallet I was able to get the tire iron on and loosen all of the lug nuts but one. It's the one they placed back onto the spare carrier in place of one of the standard spare lug nuts (with a dimple). It's the one on the top left in the attached picture. The tire iron won't even fit around it (even trying to tap it on with the mallet). That's the one the shop agreed to replace. But now after seeing what drowssap said about the different pitch of the nuts, I'm thinking I may have to try and get him to replace the studs too.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Drubie22
That's a good idea actually. But with a rubber mallet I was able to get the tire iron on and loosen all of the lug nuts but one. It's the one they placed back onto the spare carrier in place of one of the standard spare lug nuts (with a dimple). It's the one on the top left in the attached picture. The tire iron won't even fit around it (even trying to tap it on with the mallet). That's the one the shop agreed to replace. But now after seeing what drowssap said about the different pitch of the nuts, I'm thinking I may have to try and get him to replace the studs too.
IDK, the dedicated spare tire nuts on my D1 have the same pitch as the regular studs.
 
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