2008 Lr2 Starting issues
#21
She already switched the starter.
The wire that connects to the starter solenoid is likely touching the engine block, starter housing or something large and metal.
I referring to the small wire behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at.
Do the following
0. disconnect the battery
1. check that a wire is attached behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at
2. Verify that this wire isn't coming into contact with the started housing or engine block
3. check the resistance between the nut and the engine block (it should be more than 0.5 Ohm)
4. if its less than 0.5 Ohm then disconnect the nut and wire and repeat the measurement with the wire not touching the starter (this measurement should be 500,000 Ohms or more)
Let me know what you find
For reference the fuse shouldn't blow until you get to 40 amps
V = I * R
Rearrange to
V / I = R
12 / 40 = 0.3 Ohms
To blow that fuse the resistance should be 0.3 Ohms or lower
When I measure my old starter it is closer to 0.6 Ohms
Thanks
Paul
PS if you remove the small wire that the blue arrow is pointing at and connect that wire to the starter housing or engine block and you try to start the engine then the fuse will blow exactly as you are experiencing
The wire that connects to the starter solenoid is likely touching the engine block, starter housing or something large and metal.
I referring to the small wire behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at.
Do the following
0. disconnect the battery
1. check that a wire is attached behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at
2. Verify that this wire isn't coming into contact with the started housing or engine block
3. check the resistance between the nut and the engine block (it should be more than 0.5 Ohm)
4. if its less than 0.5 Ohm then disconnect the nut and wire and repeat the measurement with the wire not touching the starter (this measurement should be 500,000 Ohms or more)
Let me know what you find
For reference the fuse shouldn't blow until you get to 40 amps
V = I * R
Rearrange to
V / I = R
12 / 40 = 0.3 Ohms
To blow that fuse the resistance should be 0.3 Ohms or lower
When I measure my old starter it is closer to 0.6 Ohms
Thanks
Paul
PS if you remove the small wire that the blue arrow is pointing at and connect that wire to the starter housing or engine block and you try to start the engine then the fuse will blow exactly as you are experiencing
Last edited by p_gill; 11-19-2020 at 05:07 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by p_gill:
Forrest Hawk (11-19-2020),
ThorInc (11-19-2020)
#22
#23
#24
She already switched the starter.
The wire that connects to the starter solenoid is likely touching the engine block, starter housing or something large and metal.
I referring to the small wire behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at.
Do the following
0. disconnect the battery
1. check that a wire is attached behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at
2. Verify that this wire isn't coming into contact with the started housing or engine block
3. check the resistance between the nut and the engine block (it should be more than 0.5 Ohm)
4. if its less than 0.5 Ohm then disconnect the nut and wire and repeat the measurement with the wire not touching the starter (this measurement should be 500,000 Ohms or more)
Let me know what you find
For reference the fuse shouldn't blow until you get to 40 amps
V = I * R
Rearrange to
V / I = R
12 / 40 = 0.3 Ohms
To blow that fuse the resistance should be 0.3 Ohms or lower
When I measure my old starter it is closer to 0.6 Ohms
Thanks
Paul
PS if you remove the small wire that the blue arrow is pointing at and connect that wire to the starter housing or engine block and you try to start the engine then the fuse will blow exactly as you are experiencing
The wire that connects to the starter solenoid is likely touching the engine block, starter housing or something large and metal.
I referring to the small wire behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at.
Do the following
0. disconnect the battery
1. check that a wire is attached behind the nut that the blue arrow is pointing at
2. Verify that this wire isn't coming into contact with the started housing or engine block
3. check the resistance between the nut and the engine block (it should be more than 0.5 Ohm)
4. if its less than 0.5 Ohm then disconnect the nut and wire and repeat the measurement with the wire not touching the starter (this measurement should be 500,000 Ohms or more)
Let me know what you find
For reference the fuse shouldn't blow until you get to 40 amps
V = I * R
Rearrange to
V / I = R
12 / 40 = 0.3 Ohms
To blow that fuse the resistance should be 0.3 Ohms or lower
When I measure my old starter it is closer to 0.6 Ohms
Thanks
Paul
PS if you remove the small wire that the blue arrow is pointing at and connect that wire to the starter housing or engine block and you try to start the engine then the fuse will blow exactly as you are experiencing
Thank you so much for taking the time to assist me. You are a blessing. 💯💋
#26
My apologies, I have been sick with the flu. I did as instructed with multimeter, from starter to engine block & the meter would zero out . It would show numbers on screen but when I would touch any part of starter & then touch block, meter it would go to zero everytime.
#27
#28
Sorry to hear about the flu
If your meter can't measure the small resistance then you will need to inspect the small wire that connects to the starter and see if it is damaged.
If the copper strands are exposed and touching the engine then it will blow the fuse as you have experienced
Let us know what you find
Thanks
Paul
If your meter can't measure the small resistance then you will need to inspect the small wire that connects to the starter and see if it is damaged.
If the copper strands are exposed and touching the engine then it will blow the fuse as you have experienced
Let us know what you find
Thanks
Paul
#29
There should not be anything near zero resistance between the hot terminal and the engine block. That just confirms there is a short somewhere. But you are not supposed to measure resistance between "any part of the starter" and anywhere else. You should put one lead of the meter directly on the nut where the arrow points in the picture and any metal on the engine. If you just put it anywhere on the starter casing it will show low resistance by design.
Last edited by flybd5; 12-10-2020 at 01:46 PM.
#30
The following users liked this post:
Forrest Hawk (05-03-2021)