Cold Climate Pkg LR3 - block heaters from factory?!
#1
Cold Climate Pkg LR3 - block heaters from factory?!
I was scrounging around the LR3 4.4 workshop description / operation sections (all kinds of good random info in there!) and came across THIS!
I know it's not difficult to install one yourself on just about any engine, but if it's just sitting there pre-installed, that would be major news to me. My LR3 does have the cold climate package, so I'll try to check ASAP. These engines HATE the cold (or at least, THEY hate being cold.. after a few min it's fine, but you can tell the VVT lags when the oil is cold and you're about to up-shift).
Found a single other thread mentioning this, but no verdict on US models pre-installed. CarQuest carries the cord but isn't in stock, I'll have to see if I can find one that's more common.
Definitely might want to be in one of the stickies if it's in there. I feel like the owner manuals would have mentioned this, so maybe the workshop manual is incorrect and LRNA never bothered going through with it.
Straight plug variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600003
KATs cord 28451 (shorty 1') $18 NAPA, not in stock locally
ZeroStat 3600003 (5' I think) $17 O'Reilly & NAPA Autoparts, online only
90 degree variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600001
CQ heater parts 78060 (5' I think) $17 CarQuest, not in stock locally
O'Reilly & NAPA carry it online, interestingly it's slightly cheaper around $13
The only one I nailed down was an auto supply company selling through ebay, they have both 3600001 and 3600003 in stock around $17 and would ship same day out of Iowa. HERE
Of course if it isn't actually installed on my LR3 this is all pointless since it's almost March and I'm not dumping my coolant for a block heater now.
I know it's not difficult to install one yourself on just about any engine, but if it's just sitting there pre-installed, that would be major news to me. My LR3 does have the cold climate package, so I'll try to check ASAP. These engines HATE the cold (or at least, THEY hate being cold.. after a few min it's fine, but you can tell the VVT lags when the oil is cold and you're about to up-shift).
Found a single other thread mentioning this, but no verdict on US models pre-installed. CarQuest carries the cord but isn't in stock, I'll have to see if I can find one that's more common.
Definitely might want to be in one of the stickies if it's in there. I feel like the owner manuals would have mentioned this, so maybe the workshop manual is incorrect and LRNA never bothered going through with it.
A coolant drain plug is installed on the rear left side of the cylinder block. On vehicles with the cold climate package, the cylinder block heater replaces the drain plug.
Straight plug variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600003
KATs cord 28451 (shorty 1') $18 NAPA, not in stock locally
ZeroStat 3600003 (5' I think) $17 O'Reilly & NAPA Autoparts, online only
90 degree variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600001
CQ heater parts 78060 (5' I think) $17 CarQuest, not in stock locally
O'Reilly & NAPA carry it online, interestingly it's slightly cheaper around $13
The only one I nailed down was an auto supply company selling through ebay, they have both 3600001 and 3600003 in stock around $17 and would ship same day out of Iowa. HERE
Of course if it isn't actually installed on my LR3 this is all pointless since it's almost March and I'm not dumping my coolant for a block heater now.
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#2
I was scrounging around the LR3 4.4 workshop description / operation sections (all kinds of good random info in there!) and came across THIS!
I know it's not difficult to install one yourself on just about any engine, but if it's just sitting there pre-installed, that would be major news to me. My LR3 does have the cold climate package, so I'll try to check ASAP. These engines HATE the cold (or at least, THEY hate being cold.. after a few min it's fine, but you can tell the VVT lags when the oil is cold and you're about to up-shift).
Found a single other thread mentioning this, but no verdict on US models pre-installed. CarQuest carries the cord but isn't in stock, I'll have to see if I can find one that's more common.
Definitely might want to be in one of the stickies if it's in there. I feel like the owner manuals would have mentioned this, so maybe the workshop manual is incorrect and LRNA never bothered going through with it.
Straight plug variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600003
KATs cord 28451 (shorty 1') $18 NAPA, not in stock locally
ZeroStat 3600003 (5' I think) $17 O'Reilly & NAPA Autoparts, online only
90 degree variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600001
CQ heater parts 78060 (5' I think) $17 CarQuest, not in stock locally
O'Reilly & NAPA carry it online, interestingly it's slightly cheaper around $13
The only one I nailed down was an auto supply company selling through ebay, they have both 3600001 and 3600003 in stock around $17 and would ship same day out of Iowa. HERE
Of course if it isn't actually installed on my LR3 this is all pointless since it's almost March and I'm not dumping my coolant for a block heater now.
I know it's not difficult to install one yourself on just about any engine, but if it's just sitting there pre-installed, that would be major news to me. My LR3 does have the cold climate package, so I'll try to check ASAP. These engines HATE the cold (or at least, THEY hate being cold.. after a few min it's fine, but you can tell the VVT lags when the oil is cold and you're about to up-shift).
Found a single other thread mentioning this, but no verdict on US models pre-installed. CarQuest carries the cord but isn't in stock, I'll have to see if I can find one that's more common.
Definitely might want to be in one of the stickies if it's in there. I feel like the owner manuals would have mentioned this, so maybe the workshop manual is incorrect and LRNA never bothered going through with it.
Straight plug variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600003
KATs cord 28451 (shorty 1') $18 NAPA, not in stock locally
ZeroStat 3600003 (5' I think) $17 O'Reilly & NAPA Autoparts, online only
90 degree variants of the cord have the base Temro number of 3600001
CQ heater parts 78060 (5' I think) $17 CarQuest, not in stock locally
O'Reilly & NAPA carry it online, interestingly it's slightly cheaper around $13
The only one I nailed down was an auto supply company selling through ebay, they have both 3600001 and 3600003 in stock around $17 and would ship same day out of Iowa. HERE
Of course if it isn't actually installed on my LR3 this is all pointless since it's almost March and I'm not dumping my coolant for a block heater now.
#4
FWIW I grabbed a borescope leaving the shop today and checked behind the driver frame rail towards rear and side of engine. If it's the big allen plug next to the engine serial plate then I can confirm it isn't in fact installed. The plug and entire area of the engine were pristine though - after 11 yr and weeks of salt lately. Doesn't look like it would be a bad install.
Am I looking at the right area??
Am I looking at the right area??
#5
I think so...
FWIW I grabbed a borescope leaving the shop today and checked behind the driver frame rail towards rear and side of engine. If it's the big allen plug next to the engine serial plate then I can confirm it isn't in fact installed. The plug and entire area of the engine were pristine though - after 11 yr and weeks of salt lately. Doesn't look like it would be a bad install.
Am I looking at the right area??
Am I looking at the right area??
#6
As we were preparing a trip to James Bay last month , I poked around looking for a elusive Block heater, as some of us here in US discovered that they have one installed already as a part of CWP. Sadly, I did not have one installed, being only to spot a big HEX plug sticking out of the block. To install one , it is truly the most unaccessible place you can imagine ,probably compatible to a EPB control module location, but then again , everything under our trucks is packed tightly .If I look at the accessibility and removal of certain things such as tranny , front diff , per example, on my friend's D 1, D 2 or Defenders,jeez...i could drop that thing with a small child in one hand, but no , in LR3 , it actually requires you to use two and in many cases, four hands.
Anyway..If you lay down under the LR3 even with skids on , you can shine a light on the driver's side of the block and easily spot a Hex plug.
Getting your hands there is another matter entirely and I encourage you to try it.If you have a front diff out by any chance , for repair or swap, this would be a great time to install a block heater as well as some rust preventing measures on Tranny oil lines and , if you need it , a lower steering column replaced as access is superb , without Diff. being there. Now...If one is skillful enough and owns a good set of extensions and swivel heads, I think, it is possible to remove a block plug from a driver's wheel well side . as it is visible from there , better yet with wheels turned to the right.It looks like a two person job as one has to direct a socket there and keep it there , while second guy is slowly ratcheting that thing out. Good luck.
Anyway..If you lay down under the LR3 even with skids on , you can shine a light on the driver's side of the block and easily spot a Hex plug.
Getting your hands there is another matter entirely and I encourage you to try it.If you have a front diff out by any chance , for repair or swap, this would be a great time to install a block heater as well as some rust preventing measures on Tranny oil lines and , if you need it , a lower steering column replaced as access is superb , without Diff. being there. Now...If one is skillful enough and owns a good set of extensions and swivel heads, I think, it is possible to remove a block plug from a driver's wheel well side . as it is visible from there , better yet with wheels turned to the right.It looks like a two person job as one has to direct a socket there and keep it there , while second guy is slowly ratcheting that thing out. Good luck.
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