Help - HDC fault + Special Programs Off + low gear only
My wife was driving the LR3 last week when all of a sudden every oh-**** light came on - the suspension lowered, went into limp mode, so she parked it and called me. Sure enough I tested battery and it was bad - went to get a new one and most of the oh-**** lights went off but I still have the HDC error and the yellow triangle with an explanation mark inside and circle around - with these errors it is turning off Special Features and keeps the suspension on the bumper stops and keeps the engine locked in low gear (so I can only go 80kmh at the fastest).
I know the brake switch can cause all sorts of problems, but mine is fairly new as I recently it about a year ago so doubt that is the issue. I need some advice what to do next please.
BTW - I bought a Nexus obdii reader specific for Land Rover hoping it would allow me to erase some of these errors - unfortunately the reader is giving me errors - not sure if it is the reader but I did send the seller an inquiry.
Also to add confusion - the display is telling me to apply handbrake. why would it be saying that - is that the method to erase the hdc fault? I ask cause I can't apply the hand brake being the hand brake has not been working for years now - do I need to fix my hand brake to erase hdc error code?
Also I now noticed the yellow BRAKE warning light is on - I suspect the pads are low and I wore through one of the sensors - this is an easy replacement but my question is whether the sensors for brake pads could cause the hdc faults or some of the other issues I have now.
Thanks
I know the brake switch can cause all sorts of problems, but mine is fairly new as I recently it about a year ago so doubt that is the issue. I need some advice what to do next please.
BTW - I bought a Nexus obdii reader specific for Land Rover hoping it would allow me to erase some of these errors - unfortunately the reader is giving me errors - not sure if it is the reader but I did send the seller an inquiry.
Also to add confusion - the display is telling me to apply handbrake. why would it be saying that - is that the method to erase the hdc fault? I ask cause I can't apply the hand brake being the hand brake has not been working for years now - do I need to fix my hand brake to erase hdc error code?
Also I now noticed the yellow BRAKE warning light is on - I suspect the pads are low and I wore through one of the sensors - this is an easy replacement but my question is whether the sensors for brake pads could cause the hdc faults or some of the other issues I have now.
Thanks
Here is what I would do:
Get your brakes replaced AND get your park brake fixed. Then get an IIDTool and return that other reader. See where that leaves you. Also check all your tail/brake lights to ensure they are functioning.
Get your brakes replaced AND get your park brake fixed. Then get an IIDTool and return that other reader. See where that leaves you. Also check all your tail/brake lights to ensure they are functioning.
Checked the alt - it is fine. Checked the brake lights/bulbs - they all work. I removed the transfer case module and saw no signs of corrosion on the plug or terminals - though I still opened it up to see if an obvious signs of burnt chips - everything looked great inside so put it back together and installed. Made no difference.
Though I may have found something. The Nexas reader I got (specific to Landrover and Jags) has a feature to test battery - the reader is saying I have 11.6V and saying it is a bad battery. But it is brand new and I have a battery tester and the tester says it is 12.8V standalone and then under charge 10.2V (which is the signs of a 100% perfect battery). Though I have a spare battery so I added it with jumper cables (so now have 2 batteries) and did the test and got the same results - reader says bad battery.
So I'm thinking I might have a bad negative cable connection. Does this sound right? Where does the negative cable run to? Thanks
Though I may have found something. The Nexas reader I got (specific to Landrover and Jags) has a feature to test battery - the reader is saying I have 11.6V and saying it is a bad battery. But it is brand new and I have a battery tester and the tester says it is 12.8V standalone and then under charge 10.2V (which is the signs of a 100% perfect battery). Though I have a spare battery so I added it with jumper cables (so now have 2 batteries) and did the test and got the same results - reader says bad battery.
So I'm thinking I might have a bad negative cable connection. Does this sound right? Where does the negative cable run to? Thanks
I did some voltage drop tests on the battery and cables and all looked good - so I charged the battery for 15 mins and then did the reading inside again with the reader - now it said battery is GOOD but still have the same faults. So unfortunately I don't think the battery or cables are the issue.
I then ran codes from the Nexas reader on all the systems and got lots of error codes (see below) - any ideas from these codes - could one be the reason for the HDC fault?
- P1500 speed sensor intermittent
- P01B8 (no description but part of park brake reading)
- P0100 mass or volume air flow circuit (part of park brake reading)
- B0720 - no description
- P012E - no description but from ride control reading
- B0600 - no description but from ride control reading
- B1427 - front right seat climiate control blower motor power (from all terrain control module reading)
- B1400 - drivers door window glass one touch relay circuit short to battery (from all terrain control module reading)
- P0368 camshaft position sensor B circuit high bank 1
- P0028 - control valve control solenoid
- P0068 - manifold absolute pressure mass air flow
- P006C - no description
- C0301 - no description (part of park brake reading)
So I have tons of codes? I suspect not everything is wrong but one or two things are bad and messing up all the others??? BTW - I did erase the codes but made no difference - I still have the HDC fault message with truck stuck in low gear and Special Features not available.
Any ideas???? Thanks
I then ran codes from the Nexas reader on all the systems and got lots of error codes (see below) - any ideas from these codes - could one be the reason for the HDC fault?
- P1500 speed sensor intermittent
- P01B8 (no description but part of park brake reading)
- P0100 mass or volume air flow circuit (part of park brake reading)
- B0720 - no description
- P012E - no description but from ride control reading
- B0600 - no description but from ride control reading
- B1427 - front right seat climiate control blower motor power (from all terrain control module reading)
- B1400 - drivers door window glass one touch relay circuit short to battery (from all terrain control module reading)
- P0368 camshaft position sensor B circuit high bank 1
- P0028 - control valve control solenoid
- P0068 - manifold absolute pressure mass air flow
- P006C - no description
- C0301 - no description (part of park brake reading)
So I have tons of codes? I suspect not everything is wrong but one or two things are bad and messing up all the others??? BTW - I did erase the codes but made no difference - I still have the HDC fault message with truck stuck in low gear and Special Features not available.
Any ideas???? Thanks
so its getting worse. I removed my brake switch (under steering) and opened it up to see if there was signs of black dust or burnt stuff. It looked good so I put it back and now I have the red brake light on, engine light on, transmission says gears limited, etc, etc. I think I may have buggered up the switch - I do have a new one coming in a week or so but can someone confirm if the brake switch can be reused once removed. Also if I am doing it right. Here is what I did:
- I turned it 1/4 turn clockwise and it came out with the plunger out and the swing tabs in line with the shape to slide it back in. To put back in, I had the plunger out (with the tabs aligned) slide it in and turned 1/4" counterclockwise - it seems to be secured so I plugged in the wires - did I do something wrong????? The instructions say that when you buy a new one the plunger is not sticking out but instead inside - this makes no sense as when the plunger is inside the tabs are not aligned and thus I can't push the switch into the hole to turn since the tabs are not aligned and prevent/stop the switch from being pushed all the way in - again did I do something wrong????
- a dumb question, but can someone confirm how the switch sits when properly attached - maybe can someone take a picture of their switch installed??? Or confirm that the circled section is on the right and the plug on the left? I removed mine without really looking enough - I'm sure I'm installing it right since there really is only 1 way (the slide section has a bump around one side, so you really can't install it backwards???)
- until my new switch arrives, is there any way to test or temp repair mine? I even have my original switch from a few years ago when I first replaced it - I took my original switch and opened it up, cleaned up all the contacts, put it back together and tried it - getting the same results - so either both brake switches are buggered up or somehow I messed it up even more?????
Note I also removed my rear wheel and caliber and confirmed the pads are fine - still have 3mm if not more - but I did screw up a little - with the caliber off is when I was screwing with the brake switch and I forgot the caliber was off so a few times I did hit the brake pedal after reinstalling the switch - this obviously caused the caliber piston to go in - but I did check the fluid reserviour and I never did go below the min, and with my caliber spreader I was easily able to get it back into the base position and reinstall the brakes. Though as mentioned I now have red BRAKE light, abs light, engine light, transmission light, and my original hdc and low gear issues - did I mess up or does it sound like it is the brake switch that I messed up??????
Thanks
- I turned it 1/4 turn clockwise and it came out with the plunger out and the swing tabs in line with the shape to slide it back in. To put back in, I had the plunger out (with the tabs aligned) slide it in and turned 1/4" counterclockwise - it seems to be secured so I plugged in the wires - did I do something wrong????? The instructions say that when you buy a new one the plunger is not sticking out but instead inside - this makes no sense as when the plunger is inside the tabs are not aligned and thus I can't push the switch into the hole to turn since the tabs are not aligned and prevent/stop the switch from being pushed all the way in - again did I do something wrong????
- a dumb question, but can someone confirm how the switch sits when properly attached - maybe can someone take a picture of their switch installed??? Or confirm that the circled section is on the right and the plug on the left? I removed mine without really looking enough - I'm sure I'm installing it right since there really is only 1 way (the slide section has a bump around one side, so you really can't install it backwards???)
- until my new switch arrives, is there any way to test or temp repair mine? I even have my original switch from a few years ago when I first replaced it - I took my original switch and opened it up, cleaned up all the contacts, put it back together and tried it - getting the same results - so either both brake switches are buggered up or somehow I messed it up even more?????
Note I also removed my rear wheel and caliber and confirmed the pads are fine - still have 3mm if not more - but I did screw up a little - with the caliber off is when I was screwing with the brake switch and I forgot the caliber was off so a few times I did hit the brake pedal after reinstalling the switch - this obviously caused the caliber piston to go in - but I did check the fluid reserviour and I never did go below the min, and with my caliber spreader I was easily able to get it back into the base position and reinstall the brakes. Though as mentioned I now have red BRAKE light, abs light, engine light, transmission light, and my original hdc and low gear issues - did I mess up or does it sound like it is the brake switch that I messed up??????
Thanks
Last edited by Dan_da_LR3_H2_man; Sep 21, 2018 at 03:02 PM.
OK, I have an update - it is back to normal?????? I was fiddle more with my Nexas reader and basically went again into every mode and erased every code again - I then started to fiddle like crazy with the ride height switch and low/high switch and all of a sudden the DSC light went off, the brake light went off, the hdc fault gone, etc. I now only have the park brake error which is fine cause that has been out of service for 4+ years (I think the module is bad cause it makes no noise when you push the switch - and yes I bought a new switch and it made no difference). I took it for a ride, and I can again select Special Programs, ride height works, I can again switch between low and high gears - basically everything works!!!!!!
With the Nexas, I was ever able to erase my airbag light (that has been on forever) and reset the service/oil counter. Not bad for a reader that cost $100 CDN delivered.
With the Nexas, I was ever able to erase my airbag light (that has been on forever) and reset the service/oil counter. Not bad for a reader that cost $100 CDN delivered.
OK, I have an update - it is back to normal?????? I was fiddle more with my Nexas reader and basically went again into every mode and erased every code again - I then started to fiddle like crazy with the ride height switch and low/high switch and all of a sudden the DSC light went off, the brake light went off, the hdc fault gone, etc. I now only have the park brake error which is fine cause that has been out of service for 4+ years (I think the module is bad cause it makes no noise when you push the switch - and yes I bought a new switch and it made no difference). I took it for a ride, and I can again select Special Programs, ride height works, I can again switch between low and high gears - basically everything works!!!!!!
With the Nexas, I was ever able to erase my airbag light (that has been on forever) and reset the service/oil counter. Not bad for a reader that cost $100 CDN delivered.
With the Nexas, I was ever able to erase my airbag light (that has been on forever) and reset the service/oil counter. Not bad for a reader that cost $100 CDN delivered.
Last edited by Trent Shepard; Mar 2, 2025 at 03:50 PM.
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