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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by houm_wa
Abran, good one!

Ryan, what you say above is conjecture. We don't know how those coilers would do on those very same trails with the same drivers in EAS vehicles. Doesn't mean you are wrong, it's just not conclusive evidence. Similarly with the 99% claim...how did you establish that? Do you have data? No. Next...the fact that most LR3 owners will never take them out to wherever...is neither here nor there. Moot point

Finally....I agree that EAS fixes are expensive. I think most bump-stop issues can be checked for pre-trip. Sure...**** can still happen but risk can be reduced and for ME, the added capability is worth it.

...but "to each their own," and if you've been on this forum a while you know it's taken a lot for me to get to a point to where I can say that.
I was basing my trail claim on what I read on Expedition Portal, the member there had pictures of his LR flexing over obstacles with EAS/Coils, and his review was that the coils are more than capable off road and didn't negatively impact his ability to drive the trails he normally did. I would trust a review like that 10/10 times over someone who's never driven it (I haven't driven coils, btw) and basing their opinion on OTHER reviews from people who've never driven them.. I don't want to make it sound like coils are the end-all-be-all, but for some reason it irritates me when people act like putting coils on our 10+ year old trucks is akin to slapping baby Jesus in the face.

Ok, there's no data to back up the 99% claim, but I feel pretty confident that the absolute vast majority of LR owners wouldn't know the difference driving from their house to the local Walgreens/CVS if you swapped their EAS for coils if you didn't tell them, let alone be disappointed in their performance
We had a local friend and Range Rover guy ride in my girlfriend's Velar and he commented on how much he loved the "modern" EAS compared to his 06 RR HSE. It was kind of embarrassing explaining that the Velar he was in had standard strut/spring suspension!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KMET
@ 160k miles, coils handle the same as day one of my install. Same goes for front bushings.
Now I know this is bullcarp.

I do not for one second think that an LR3 would be as tight in the bushings as the day you did the conversion and with 160,000 miles as you claim I know for a fact that an LR3 is a 3 ton bohemouth that eats them like candy, unless of course you have them swapped out and are still peddling this garbage.

You do know LR did a non EAS LR3 for the European market, right? It wasn't a great seller and as I know 2 enthusiasts who have them, one in Germany and one in Belgium, I can say with certainty that bushings don't last more than 100,000 kilometers, that's 60,000 miles to us and I'm 100% calling the springs being so amazing and not sagging bullcarp as 3/4T per corner and unless you park it on jack stands the laws of gravity apply and it has had a few years of compression and on top that your "claimed" 160,000 miles of use means they will have softened and they will have sagged whether you want to believe it or not but you are a shill for your bushings comment and that's the truth.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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Default I don't doubt coils do "fine" off-road...

...I feel like the LR3 was designed with EAS being its core. I don't really know how coils do compared to EAS. I just don't have that answer but I scoff at assertions that they do "as well as" because my gut tells me no. Even the guy on Expedition Portal, was he testing his own LR3 that he converted in sort of a before/after scenario or what? What was the setup? I think it would be very difficult to have a test controlled enough to eliminate key variables including emotional bias.

So like I said in the last post, I wouldn't swap one for the other.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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The also sold non-eas trucks in North America as well.

Front control arms on my 06 were done at 134k they were original if the date coding on them were to be believed.

The coiler does great off road, it works very well with the terrain response system and gets the job done. EAS does great off road, it works well with the terrain response system and gets the job done.

The big difference, is the coiler doesn't get dropped to the bumps
 

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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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^ Armyrover- Did you buy the truck with coils installed? I wouldn't want your Peter to fall off...
 
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 09:17 PM
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I'm married I no longer need my peter.

I did, I saw it right before the coils went in. The EAS was so shot it was not even funny. 3 of 4 struts bad leaking valve block and a burned up compressor. It was not economically viable to repair the system
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Aw man, maybe you can be the first to debunk the myth.

Peter check please...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 03:37 PM
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It is still present for duty and my coiler is rocking along.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 12:00 AM
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Nigelw,

Think you missed the part where I changed over to poly orange bushings some years back. That are till working fine today. As my claim for it not sagging? It has not sagged!...Old Man EMU's are great coils. I admit I don't measure it, visually, it looks the same. Dont care what you think, so bugger off.

Would take some digging but pretty sure our 1st 06 lr3 was an hd coiler.

2008? Myself (Jeep wrangler), NWoods (Past member with hd/coils....He bought a Jeep couple years later) and I took some other EAS lr3's out. Everyone had fun, but I ended up dragging them up last hill...
 
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Old Feb 12, 2019 | 12:04 AM
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Married 38yrs.

Operational peter... (un-medicated)
 

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