LR3 instrument cluster info
#14
08-22-2023, 04:41 PM
So from all indications, my 2009 LR3 HSE has a bad instrument cluster. Abran on this board kindly assisted me in pursuing getting a used cluster from another LR3, but apparently the instrument cluster from an 05 through 07 will not work in the 08s and 09s, and there was no 08 or 09 that I could find anywhere.
If your cluster is bad and you DO want to get another used one, remember these facts:
1. You cannot dial back the mileage on the odometer of a used one. So if your LR3 has 120,000 miles and the "new to you" used cluster has 130,000 miles on it, guess what, you just put 10,000 miles on your truck.
2. You will need to buy a GAP II device to program the "new to you" cluster.
3. Because you are installing a used cluster, it might bug out just like the one you had.
In my case, I had two options since no 08-09 used units were available: 1) Buy a new cluster for $1200, or 2) Get mine fixed. I chose to get mine fixed from a company called ClusterFix.net. For $349, they will fix your cluster and actually improve it to prevent further problems. They have a 2 to 4 business day turnaround. With shipping times, etc., you are down for 2 weeks unless you're really lucky.
Hope this helps some poor soul.
If your cluster is bad and you DO want to get another used one, remember these facts:
1. You cannot dial back the mileage on the odometer of a used one. So if your LR3 has 120,000 miles and the "new to you" used cluster has 130,000 miles on it, guess what, you just put 10,000 miles on your truck.
2. You will need to buy a GAP II device to program the "new to you" cluster.
3. Because you are installing a used cluster, it might bug out just like the one you had.
In my case, I had two options since no 08-09 used units were available: 1) Buy a new cluster for $1200, or 2) Get mine fixed. I chose to get mine fixed from a company called ClusterFix.net. For $349, they will fix your cluster and actually improve it to prevent further problems. They have a 2 to 4 business day turnaround. With shipping times, etc., you are down for 2 weeks unless you're really lucky.
Hope this helps some poor soul.
My fear obviously being that if the new dash is like 200k miles and I connect it and turn the car on to see the mileage and it automatically says "ok great, this is the new mileage" I'd be pretty pissed honestly. Any insight on how to check this before it decides to program itself to the new mileage?
#15
08-23-2023, 04:46 PM
Pro Wrench
Sooooooo let's just say a guy with a 2008 LR3 with only 105k miles bought an instrument cluster off of ebay, but hasn't quite installed it and reprogrammed it with their GAP IID tool yet and they just came across this post... is there anyway to test what the mileage is on the new cluster before it "programs itself" to that number?
My fear obviously being that if the new dash is like 200k miles and I connect it and turn the car on to see the mileage and it automatically says "ok great, this is the new mileage" I'd be pretty pissed honestly. Any insight on how to check this before it decides to program itself to the new mileage?
My fear obviously being that if the new dash is like 200k miles and I connect it and turn the car on to see the mileage and it automatically says "ok great, this is the new mileage" I'd be pretty pissed honestly. Any insight on how to check this before it decides to program itself to the new mileage?
#16
08-27-2023, 12:52 PM
Sooooooo let's just say a guy with a 2008 LR3 with only 105k miles bought an instrument cluster off of ebay, but hasn't quite installed it and reprogrammed it with their GAP IID tool yet and they just came across this post... is there anyway to test what the mileage is on the new cluster before it "programs itself" to that number?
My fear obviously being that if the new dash is like 200k miles and I connect it and turn the car on to see the mileage and it automatically says "ok great, this is the new mileage" I'd be pretty pissed honestly. Any insight on how to check this before it decides to program itself to the new mileage?
My fear obviously being that if the new dash is like 200k miles and I connect it and turn the car on to see the mileage and it automatically says "ok great, this is the new mileage" I'd be pretty pissed honestly. Any insight on how to check this before it decides to program itself to the new mileage?
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loanrangie (08-28-2023)
#19
08-29-2023, 08:57 AM
Here is the complete instructions from GAP. The last step, finalizing is when the ODO is synced:First, keep in mind that it needs to be the same model year range, 2004-2006, or 2007+ due to fascia changes. Odometer value can only be raised, not lowered and to a maximum of 262k km. If the car is higher than this value, the odometer value will not be raised.
Step 1: Update your IIDTool
-Connect your IIDTool to your computer
-Start the updater software
-Click on Find Device
-Click on Program Flash File Only
-Click on Program Firmware
-Wait until completion
Step 2: In the vehicle
With the old instrument pack fitted
-Connect the tool
-Menu->Car Config, do not change any settings. Wait until CCF reading is completed.
-Leave the tool connected on the OBD port and mobile App connected on the tool. Do not disconnect the battery, the tool needs to be powered.
-Turn off ignition/remove the key
The following steps need to be done without delay between each other.
-Disconnect and replace the instrument pack with the new one.
-Turn ignition ON
-Restore the CCF backup to the new instrument pack (Menu->Save Restore->Restore Settings->Car Config...)
VIN Reset
-Menu->ECU Flash->IPC Reset, wait until completion
-Turn key OFF, wait one minute
-Turn key ON, wait one minute
-Try to start the engine, if it doesn't start, turn the key off, one minute, then on one minute. Repeat key cycling and delays until engine starts. It can take around 3 cycles before the engine starts
Finalizing
Menu—ECU Flash—IPC, select the desired version
Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->Synch odometer
Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->VIN Learn
Step 1: Update your IIDTool
-Connect your IIDTool to your computer
-Start the updater software
-Click on Find Device
-Click on Program Flash File Only
-Click on Program Firmware
-Wait until completion
Step 2: In the vehicle
With the old instrument pack fitted
-Connect the tool
-Menu->Car Config, do not change any settings. Wait until CCF reading is completed.
-Leave the tool connected on the OBD port and mobile App connected on the tool. Do not disconnect the battery, the tool needs to be powered.
-Turn off ignition/remove the key
The following steps need to be done without delay between each other.
-Disconnect and replace the instrument pack with the new one.
-Turn ignition ON
-Restore the CCF backup to the new instrument pack (Menu->Save Restore->Restore Settings->Car Config...)
VIN Reset
-Menu->ECU Flash->IPC Reset, wait until completion
-Turn key OFF, wait one minute
-Turn key ON, wait one minute
-Try to start the engine, if it doesn't start, turn the key off, one minute, then on one minute. Repeat key cycling and delays until engine starts. It can take around 3 cycles before the engine starts
Finalizing
Menu—ECU Flash—IPC, select the desired version
Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->Synch odometer
Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->VIN Learn
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loanrangie (08-29-2023)
#20
10-14-2023, 12:16 PM
