LR3 TC engages at turns
You should NOT have any red in the bottom part of the page when it is aligned properly.
Front Caster should be between 3.1 and 4.6.----You are at 1.5. This means the top of wheel knuckle is too far forward . This will make it hard to keep it straight going down the road and will be very responsive when making a turn. (Might be a good thing for a road racing car on a short tight course, but very dangerous for an SUV going down the interstate at 70 mph).
Rear Camber should be between 0 and -1.5 ---- You are at 1.3. This means that the top of the wheel is too far to the inside of the car. This will make the rear of the car feel wrong when cornering as it will not keep the rear tire flat against the pavement and you will lose grip in the rear of the car.
Not that this is THE problem.... it is A problem. It is hard to diagnose a steering / turning noise or problem if the car is not aligned properly.
TAKE IT BACK and get it into specifications. If they cannot put it into tight tolerance and you do not have a diagnostic tool to do that before you hand them the keys, then ask them to leave the drivers door open as that should keep the suspension from moving around while on the rack. I think the service manual says that it should be road tested and put back on the rack to check things twice before releasing it to the customer.
Jeff
Front Caster should be between 3.1 and 4.6.----You are at 1.5. This means the top of wheel knuckle is too far forward . This will make it hard to keep it straight going down the road and will be very responsive when making a turn. (Might be a good thing for a road racing car on a short tight course, but very dangerous for an SUV going down the interstate at 70 mph).
Rear Camber should be between 0 and -1.5 ---- You are at 1.3. This means that the top of the wheel is too far to the inside of the car. This will make the rear of the car feel wrong when cornering as it will not keep the rear tire flat against the pavement and you will lose grip in the rear of the car.
Not that this is THE problem.... it is A problem. It is hard to diagnose a steering / turning noise or problem if the car is not aligned properly.
TAKE IT BACK and get it into specifications. If they cannot put it into tight tolerance and you do not have a diagnostic tool to do that before you hand them the keys, then ask them to leave the drivers door open as that should keep the suspension from moving around while on the rack. I think the service manual says that it should be road tested and put back on the rack to check things twice before releasing it to the customer.
Jeff
Last edited by Rufflyer; Feb 28, 2024 at 07:32 AM.
I agree that if you can get Firestone to align it and give a lifetime warranty, take it.
I had to call 4 different Firestone shops in Houston TX to find one that a) had a hunter brand alignment rack, b) was willing to align an LR3, and that shop would not offer a lifetime alignment for Land Rovers.
While living in Houston, I did have good luck with the lifetime alignment for my wife's MINI. We have since moved to southwest Missouri and took my wifes 2018 MINI Countryman JCW to a Firestone service center in Springfield and they did not get the left wheel in alignment. They made a note that said "a special BMW tool was required" .
I got an email survey about our experience and I unloaded about how I felt. A person from Customer Service called and wanted to know what they needed to do to make it right, I said get the car in alignment as per the warranty, nothing more, nothing less. A few days later (and a 100 mile round trip) the MINI is tracking straight down the road again.
Seems Firestone is a lot like a Wendys; each one independently owned and operated and may or may not participate in a $1 off Frosty coupon.
I hope your experience in the future is better than mine has been in the past.
Jeff
I had to call 4 different Firestone shops in Houston TX to find one that a) had a hunter brand alignment rack, b) was willing to align an LR3, and that shop would not offer a lifetime alignment for Land Rovers.
While living in Houston, I did have good luck with the lifetime alignment for my wife's MINI. We have since moved to southwest Missouri and took my wifes 2018 MINI Countryman JCW to a Firestone service center in Springfield and they did not get the left wheel in alignment. They made a note that said "a special BMW tool was required" .
I got an email survey about our experience and I unloaded about how I felt. A person from Customer Service called and wanted to know what they needed to do to make it right, I said get the car in alignment as per the warranty, nothing more, nothing less. A few days later (and a 100 mile round trip) the MINI is tracking straight down the road again.
Seems Firestone is a lot like a Wendys; each one independently owned and operated and may or may not participate in a $1 off Frosty coupon.
I hope your experience in the future is better than mine has been in the past.
Jeff
In my parts they are called Tires Plus (Bridgestone/Firestone). One side of town it so stupid it hurts. Said they could not do my alignments because they lacked the tools to do lane detection reset, adaptive cruise reset, etc, etc... I told them my LR3 had none of those systems... Ended up going to the other side of town and got the lifetime alignment for $180 or so. Had it done a few times now, paid for itself easily.
Anyway... as for that alignment readout - they did not align it, the only changes made were to toe. That is sad. They did not even touch the control arms I bet. Frankly, I would be a little worried having them do it again. But I will add ONE important thing.... If your suspension is original/old you may find they can not even align it. They will be really struggling to get the bolts free enough to do it. So maybe... just maybe that was the issues as to why nothing was really done? Not making excuse, but....
Anyway... as for that alignment readout - they did not align it, the only changes made were to toe. That is sad. They did not even touch the control arms I bet. Frankly, I would be a little worried having them do it again. But I will add ONE important thing.... If your suspension is original/old you may find they can not even align it. They will be really struggling to get the bolts free enough to do it. So maybe... just maybe that was the issues as to why nothing was really done? Not making excuse, but....
Thanks tracyc - I did keep my OEM sensors, but, they are old and dirty. Thinking about replacing them with new OEM sensors. But, the problem still persists...So far, deactivating the DSC seems to work.
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