Snow chains?
#21
I'm running the 275/70-18 STT Pro. I would not recommend it for a daily driver but for a trail rig they work. I haven't had a chance to get them in the rocks yet since I just put them on this winter.
If you like the Duratrac but are worried about them, look at the Cooper ST-Maxx. For about 10,000 good refrences for that tire head over to ExPo - those guys LOVE that tire.
For a truck that's largely driven on the street but you still want some trail worthy rubber, I'd look at the Cooper AT/3. I have a friend running them on her LR4 daily driver/light trail rig and she loves them. They also won a shoot-out by the Overland Journal guys a couple years ago by a good margin, though that didn't include any of the more aggressive AT tires.
If you like the Duratrac but are worried about them, look at the Cooper ST-Maxx. For about 10,000 good refrences for that tire head over to ExPo - those guys LOVE that tire.
For a truck that's largely driven on the street but you still want some trail worthy rubber, I'd look at the Cooper AT/3. I have a friend running them on her LR4 daily driver/light trail rig and she loves them. They also won a shoot-out by the Overland Journal guys a couple years ago by a good margin, though that didn't include any of the more aggressive AT tires.
#22
Yes....11 years down the road and we are facing all to familiar problem ,everybody else can do it , but not us .From Yotas , Jeeps and Hummers to Land cruisers and G class , but still ...not us and that is , without any modifications.
We have one of the most capable overloading /off roading trucks out there , but still, without pounding seams on wheel wells , moving harnesses, promoting mechanical and electronic lift devices and spacers, we are limited for sure.
We don't have to go bigger , so to speak , as our rigs rely on different suspension set up that solid axle vehicles.When we press the button ,entire chassis is lifted , without leaving those vulnerable spots , such as low hanging diffs , which is the case in , again , solid ale trucks .Their only option to avoid that was to resort to a biggest tire available , so it could lift the whole solid suspension up .Our set up does not need that mentality. We don't need a bigger tire, at least I don't and i roll with big guys on 37's and 42's. all I need is a slightly different approach to a obstacle , that's all.
Now.all our problems would disappear , if we could easily get our hands on 17 inch wheels. There are MT options out there , that would fit our trucks without going bigger. There is one company , in Germany , that has those 17 and their offset is enough, that they fit LR3 without any mods to a brake system, but......If I only did not have to pay arm and the leg for a set, I would get them in the heartbeat .maybe one day , but as my rig approaches 200 000 miles , I question myself in times like these , should I invest more money in aging truck or should i take a road more traveled and find out , if grass is really greener on the other side .Cheers
We have one of the most capable overloading /off roading trucks out there , but still, without pounding seams on wheel wells , moving harnesses, promoting mechanical and electronic lift devices and spacers, we are limited for sure.
We don't have to go bigger , so to speak , as our rigs rely on different suspension set up that solid axle vehicles.When we press the button ,entire chassis is lifted , without leaving those vulnerable spots , such as low hanging diffs , which is the case in , again , solid ale trucks .Their only option to avoid that was to resort to a biggest tire available , so it could lift the whole solid suspension up .Our set up does not need that mentality. We don't need a bigger tire, at least I don't and i roll with big guys on 37's and 42's. all I need is a slightly different approach to a obstacle , that's all.
Now.all our problems would disappear , if we could easily get our hands on 17 inch wheels. There are MT options out there , that would fit our trucks without going bigger. There is one company , in Germany , that has those 17 and their offset is enough, that they fit LR3 without any mods to a brake system, but......If I only did not have to pay arm and the leg for a set, I would get them in the heartbeat .maybe one day , but as my rig approaches 200 000 miles , I question myself in times like these , should I invest more money in aging truck or should i take a road more traveled and find out , if grass is really greener on the other side .Cheers
#24
On fire roads.
Let's face it - the LR3 has plenty of good points but it will never be a rock crawler. This sounds like the kid in the Honda Civic who 'raced' a new Vette/M3/AMG C63/Ferrari/Etc. Sure he 'hung with' the exotic car, maybe even beat him to the next stoplight. The problem is the exotic car didn't know there was a race on while the Civic was maxed out.
If anybody truly believes they can 'roll with' a rig on 37s or 42s in an LR3, please PLEASE come down here and show me how you do it. We will start by running Fordyce. I won't be bringing my LR3, and no, I won't be paying for your damage. I will however bring a camera to document the carnage.
#25
Cooper Tire & Rubber Company - Discoverer STT PRO?
#27
Sure, I roll with guy on 37 and 42 as well.
On fire roads.
Let's face it - the LR3 has plenty of good points but it will never be a rock crawler. This sounds like the kid in the Honda Civic who 'raced' a new Vette/M3/AMG C63/Ferrari/Etc. Sure he 'hung with' the exotic car, maybe even beat him to the next stoplight. The problem is the exotic car didn't know there was a race on while the Civic was maxed out.
If anybody truly believes they can 'roll with' a rig on 37s or 42s in an LR3, please PLEASE come down here and show me how you do it. We will start by running Fordyce. I won't be bringing my LR3, and no, I won't be paying for your damage. I will however bring a camera to document the carnage.
On fire roads.
Let's face it - the LR3 has plenty of good points but it will never be a rock crawler. This sounds like the kid in the Honda Civic who 'raced' a new Vette/M3/AMG C63/Ferrari/Etc. Sure he 'hung with' the exotic car, maybe even beat him to the next stoplight. The problem is the exotic car didn't know there was a race on while the Civic was maxed out.
If anybody truly believes they can 'roll with' a rig on 37s or 42s in an LR3, please PLEASE come down here and show me how you do it. We will start by running Fordyce. I won't be bringing my LR3, and no, I won't be paying for your damage. I will however bring a camera to document the carnage.
#28
I'd say the KO2 is more directly competitive with the ST Maxx, while the KM2 is compares with the STT Pro.
Around my area the BFGs (KO/KO2 and KM/KM2) seem to be the default standard, with Cooper coming in perhaps 2nd. Then you get a mix of everything else from Toyo to Nitto to GY to Yokohama, etc.
Ah yes, a good old fashioned tire thread. Next we'll start an oil thread just to keep the post count up!
#29
Remamber, that I am on East Coast , there is no serious and continuous rock crawling here, there are boulders and rocks, lots of mud , hill climbs, sang and ruts , greenery abounds, unlike a Utah, Arizona and Cali. Lot's of snow and forested roads and water , especially VT, Nj and NH , so no need to show off with rock crawling skills, so to speak..
#30
The MT/R is available in 275/65-18, but only a C load - as noted, pretty light duty for a heavy rig like an LR3. The 275/70-18 is E rated, but that's pretty darn big for a daily driver.