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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 07:35 AM
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Question Starting issue

I've got a 2005 LR3 with the 4.4L.
Starting issue is this: I turn the engine over and it's acting like the battery is dead. Battery is only 2 months old. I turn the engine over and it's as if the battery is dead. I turn the engine off and try again and the engine starts right up. I've currently have no codes relating to this type of issue or low voltage. My one main guess is that my starter maybe dying and the draw on the starter is doing this. I don't know so I'm here as a new guy on the forum and a new Land Rover owner to see what you guys think.
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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When you say 'acting like the battery is dead' what do you mean? It wouldn't start with a dead battery; do you mean it's sluggish to turnover and catch? Check the voltage across the battery when the car is off having sat overnight, and check the voltage when the engine is running. Those readings will give you a pointer to condition of the battery. You should also check the alternator operation (at the alternator terminal if you have a multi-meter) using the DC setting (useful info on 'tinterweb on how to do that). Just because your battery is new-ish doesn't mean it's good, or that it's receiving the charge it needs. I'd suggest starting there.

Useful to know how you're reading the fault codes. Do you have an IID tool, or another method?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2020 | 08:16 PM
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1st thanks for the reply!
On first crank starting it acts as the battery is dead and wont turn over at all or it's very sluggish to start up. On 2nd crank after I turn it off again it starts right up like nothing is wrong.
I thought it maybe a charging issue from the alternator to the battery, but the battery is charging at a normal range from the alternator. I do have a friend that owns a shop here in town so he's going to do a load test on
the variety of issues it could possibly be. But his 1st guess was that the starter is going bad and the solenoid just doesn't have the juice to turn the motor. But I will surely do what you recommended as well with all the test.
I bought this private party and the previous owners took excellent care of it and have replaced quite a bit. One thing that wasn't replaced under their ownership was the starter. I managed to get the records of all repairs done to the vehicle.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 09:28 PM
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It could be the starter, but I am not certain in your case. The starter in these trucks is made by Denso (Toyota) and prone to failure. The solenoid contacts wear out and cause interment starting issues. But usually that means when you turn the key, it just clicks. I have not heard of an issues were it causes a slow turnover of the engine.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 06:24 AM
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Double check the ground cable. It runs from the neg terminal of the battery to the fender (you may need to remove the battery to get a full view of the cable. At the very least remove the nut on the ground lug on the fender and give it a liberal coat of di-electric grease. When I am working on these things and have to unplug a connector, especially a ground lug, I cover it with the stuff during reassembly.

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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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Just don't coat the area between the lug and cable with di-electric, its an insulating grease not a conductor.
 
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