Transmission drain and fill
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I called five other “euro” shops and they all advised to leave the transmission alone and refused to work on it. All said I would do more harm than good. Only one offered to do anything, a drain an fill for $600. One said he personally owns/has owned 3 LR3s/LR4s and never changed transmissions fluid on any of them and got over 150k on all of them.
We do on average a trans service a week.
I have never, not once, done a service to a trans that was working properly and had a bad outcome. I’ve even done software updates and adaption resets on transmissions with over 200k miles without issue, which is not recommended.
In my experience the idea that old fluid is the only thing holding your trans together, is false. But if it were true, I’d rather force the issue to appear then thousands of miles away from home.
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I’m still very conflicted on what to do. I think $950 for a flush is about $400 too high.
I very much respect mechanics not wanting to do a pan swap on a 20 year vehicle, especially when the manufacturer recommendations say don’t touch it but I know doing something is the right thing.
I’m probably going to try to coax one of the non-LR shops I’ve been happy with before into doing the AB pan swap by pairing it with some easier work.
I very much respect mechanics not wanting to do a pan swap on a 20 year vehicle, especially when the manufacturer recommendations say don’t touch it but I know doing something is the right thing.
I’m probably going to try to coax one of the non-LR shops I’ve been happy with before into doing the AB pan swap by pairing it with some easier work.
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I would agree on the price for drain and refill, if they are hooking up to a machine and doing a flush, not sure what that involves or how much the machine costs. FYI, we drain, change the filter, reassemble and fill. As mentioned that does not change 100% of the fluid. All my comments are based on this method. This method uses 8 liters of fluid +/-.
I’m not going to help you with this, but Land Rover says do not service the trans. ZF says every 70k miles or earlier if towing or extreme use.
if you do the pan, make sure to use a genuine ZF filter, change the Mechatronics sleeve, convert to metal pan, and the most important… use this pan gasket.
TOS 18753, felpro
It’s aluminum crush material with an over molded rubber gasket type edge.
good luck
I’m not going to help you with this, but Land Rover says do not service the trans. ZF says every 70k miles or earlier if towing or extreme use.
if you do the pan, make sure to use a genuine ZF filter, change the Mechatronics sleeve, convert to metal pan, and the most important… use this pan gasket.
TOS 18753, felpro
It’s aluminum crush material with an over molded rubber gasket type edge.
good luck
Last edited by abran; 08-31-2023 at 09:03 AM.
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P-Bod (09-01-2023)
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Thanks for the input everyone. I’ve checked around to another half dozen shops and no one wants to touch it except the indie Land Rover shop. Their lot is full of LR3s and LR4s I trust this shop and he was strong in his recommendation that it be serviced. I just think his price is too high.
I am getting the sense that a lot of places have really cut back on transmission maintenance services with “sealed” transmissions becoming the norm.
I am a bit skittish with doing a drain and fill in the driveway because space is tight and you have to complete the fill with a hot running car. I’m also missing the protective plate and heat shield for the transmission when I look underneath. Makes access easier but I will likely get a used heat shield and some skid plates.
I am getting the sense that a lot of places have really cut back on transmission maintenance services with “sealed” transmissions becoming the norm.
I am a bit skittish with doing a drain and fill in the driveway because space is tight and you have to complete the fill with a hot running car. I’m also missing the protective plate and heat shield for the transmission when I look underneath. Makes access easier but I will likely get a used heat shield and some skid plates.
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abran (09-02-2023)
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I am a bit skittish with doing a drain and fill in the driveway because space is tight and you have to complete the fill with a hot running car. I’m also missing the protective plate and heat shield for the transmission when I look underneath. Makes access easier but I will likely get a used heat shield and some skid plates.
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Every model has a maintenance repair that is needlessly a PITA. For my F150, it was spark plugs. For the LR3 it’s the transmission.