LR3 Talk about the Land Rover LR3 within.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Various random faults - system shutting down

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 8, 2019 | 08:40 AM
  #11  
PieterMTB's Avatar
1st Gear
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default Cluster replacement

Originally Posted by mroorda
Hi everyone. Just wanted to update for posterity. The dealer hooked up Rover to his super rover code reader machine and said all the codes pointed toward a bad instrument cluster. He promptly quoted me $1200 plus shipping and labor for a total of about $2k. Deciding against that, I purchased a used IC from ebay for $90. Hesitantly, the dealer synced the new (used) IC. He told me he didn't really think this would work but he would give it a shot. He said it took a couple tries but ended up being successful as everything seems fine now. I did all the demo and reinstall so I got off pretty cheap. And now my Rover works like a champ.

Well, not exactly a champ, I keep getting a suspension fault now but I can live with that. It really seems independent of the original problem. At least it starts reliably now and nothing has shut down while driving down the road anymore.

Thanks
Matt
Hello Matt,

I found this thread via a Google search. My car is doing exactly the same. My local LR dealers in South Africa keep tellibg me that the cluster cannot be transferred (VIN specific) how did the guy manager to bypass this. I can get a 2nd hand cluster but don't want to buy and then it doesn't work.

Thanks

Pieter
 
Reply
Old Feb 8, 2019 | 12:35 PM
  #12  
abran's Avatar
Baja
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 6,877
Likes: 786
From: Huntington Beach CA
Default

Originally Posted by PieterMTB
Hello Matt,

I found this thread via a Google search. My car is doing exactly the same. My local LR dealers in South Africa keep tellibg me that the cluster cannot be transferred (VIN specific) how did the guy manager to bypass this. I can get a 2nd hand cluster but don't want to buy and then it doesn't work.

Thanks

Pieter
You need to buy a GAP IID tool. Then you need a cluster with less miles than yours. Gap will send you a file to upload to your vehicle to make it work. I have done it once at our shop.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2020 | 06:17 PM
  #13  
c00mtg's Avatar
6th Gear
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Default

Just checking to see if anyone had any updates on this issue.

My mechanic said i need a new cluster ($2500 with labor and parts). I've read about getting a used cluster from ebay and the IDDTool to reprogram. I'm getting quoted $495 for tool and $900 for cluster from ik8parts. Has anyone been successful doing this?

My issues: Won't start sometimes unless i wait a few minutes. If it starts, and while driving, i get the "system shutting down" on the radio (navigation, radio turns off, cabin lights turn on, doors start to lock/unlock on their own, hazard lights stay on. I replaced the brake light switch, new battery. I'm thinking in inspecting the ECU and TCU? to see if there's corrosion? Checking all wires around battery and ECU/TCU to make sure they have good connections? Water damage on fuse boxes?

Yesterday, i was about to leave and was able to start the Rover and the message above came up and brake light started blinking...even after removing the key. Could it be an issue with the brake light wiring? (I replaced brake light switch already). Maybe a wiring issue behind the radio? Also getting HDC fault system unavailable.

This is for a 2006 Range Rover HSE Sport (non supercharged) with 135k miles.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2020 | 07:42 AM
  #14  
Blackngold77's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 395
Likes: 80
From: Las Vegas
Default

Check the ground cable from the battery. Known failure point, especially the ground connection getting corroded and causing electronic armageddon.

Have you checked your alternator?
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2020 | 07:46 AM
  #15  
c00mtg's Avatar
6th Gear
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Blackngold77
Check the ground cable from the battery. Known failure point, especially the ground connection getting corroded and causing electronic armageddon.

Have you checked your alternator?
I have not checked the alternator, how do I do that? I do have a voltage reader but have not used it.

When you say check the ground cable, are you referring to the black cable where it connects to the chassis?

Thanks for the reply!
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2020 | 08:04 AM
  #16  
Blackngold77's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 395
Likes: 80
From: Las Vegas
Default

Originally Posted by c00mtg
I have not checked the alternator, how do I do that? I do have a voltage reader but have not used it.

When you say check the ground cable, are you referring to the black cable where it connects to the chassis?

Thanks for the reply!
Best bet for the alternator is to have it load tested. If it's dying it could not be fully charging and causing the issues.

For the ground cable, yup exactly that one. The chassis connection is a known corrosion issue.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2020 | 08:44 PM
  #17  
mroorda's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Overlanding
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 19
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by c00mtg
My issues: Won't start sometimes unless i wait a few minutes. If it starts, and while driving, i get the "system shutting down" on the radio (navigation, radio turns off, cabin lights turn on, doors start to lock/unlock on their own, hazard lights stay on. I replaced the brake light switch, new battery.
.
This sounds EXACTLY like my problem. Mine is a 2007 and at the time had 120K miles on it. I replace the instrument cluster with a used one from eBay. I don't recall but don't think that I paid any attention to the mileage on the replacement versus the original. My land rover shop reprogrammed everything but later I bought a IID tool and it looks like I could have reprogrammed with using that. Note that in my troubleshooting I replaced the brake light switch and the battery.

What happens when you push the trip odometer reset? In my case, it was similar to a self destruct button every time.
 

Last edited by mroorda; May 6, 2020 at 08:48 PM.
Reply
Old May 6, 2020 | 09:25 PM
  #18  
c00mtg's Avatar
6th Gear
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 6
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by mroorda
This sounds EXACTLY like my problem. Mine is a 2007 and at the time had 120K miles on it. I replace the instrument cluster with a used one from eBay. I don't recall but don't think that I paid any attention to the mileage on the replacement versus the original. My land rover shop reprogrammed everything but later I bought a IID tool and it looks like I could have reprogrammed with using that. Note that in my troubleshooting I replaced the brake light switch and the battery.

What happens when you push the trip odometer reset? In my case, it was similar to a self destruct button every time.
Have not tried the reset button. I did notice my ground battery cable on the chassis has paint, so I s removed the paint to have a better connection. I'm sending my cluster to this company in Washington for repair, a specialist. Hope that fixes it, sending it out tomorrow. I did replace the brake light switch.
 
Reply
Old May 8, 2020 | 06:23 AM
  #19  
bmwrovers's Avatar
Mudding
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: Lancaster, pa
Default

I have/had the same issues, and actually pulled the cluster apart to find 3-4 bad soldered pins, some clean up and back together! I used the "spoon" technique to pull the gauge needles off, but going back on they don't work properly now. still work to a degree, i just deal with it. After further research i think there is a twist method out there. look it up. scary but easy job.
 
Reply
Old May 9, 2020 | 03:49 PM
  #20  
marcodolo's Avatar
3rd Gear
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by c00mtg
My issues: Won't start sometimes unless i wait a few minutes. If it starts, and while driving, i get the "system shutting down" on the radio (navigation, radio turns off, cabin lights turn on, doors start to lock/unlock on their own, hazard lights stay on. I replaced the brake light switch, new battery. I'm thinking in inspecting the ECU and TCU? to see if there's corrosion? Checking all wires around battery and ECU/TCU to make sure they have good connections? Water damage on fuse boxes?.
I'm also having these same issues with my 2009 range rover sport hse with 99.6k miles when it happened the first time I had the codes ran and I got a U0167 (Lost Communication With Vehicle Immobilizer Control Module) but now when I turn the key I also get TPMS, Parking brake, brake faults, and a hdc fault system unavailable. Does this sound like an instrument cluster problem too or could it be more than just the IC? Curios to see if any of you guys also get those faults. Also what company are you sending it to for repair?
Thanks in Advance.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:41 AM.