3rd row dilemma: V-6 LR4 vs. New Range Rover Sport Supercharged
#1
3rd row dilemma: V-6 LR4 vs. New Range Rover Sport Supercharged
The new LR4 only comes with a supercharged V-6... I am not thrilled with this: less HP and torque than what I already have ('11 LR4).
The New RRS finally comes with a third row (electric only). The problem is the rear roof line sloped downward. The head clearance in the 3rd row is compromised because of this. Not an issue in the LR4.
I am really bummed you cannot get the LR4 with an optional supercharged V-8 (like the RRS). Every time I have driven a car with small engine that has been fiddled with to make it more powerful, the results leave me wanting more.
A few more years and we will be back in the market - Love the LR4, love the 3rd row... if there are no model changes, I will really be in a fix when it is time to choose between a less powerful replacement or a super powerful, but cramped upgrade.
The New RRS finally comes with a third row (electric only). The problem is the rear roof line sloped downward. The head clearance in the 3rd row is compromised because of this. Not an issue in the LR4.
I am really bummed you cannot get the LR4 with an optional supercharged V-8 (like the RRS). Every time I have driven a car with small engine that has been fiddled with to make it more powerful, the results leave me wanting more.
A few more years and we will be back in the market - Love the LR4, love the 3rd row... if there are no model changes, I will really be in a fix when it is time to choose between a less powerful replacement or a super powerful, but cramped upgrade.
#2
LR4 with 510hp will get you in trouble real fast! Too top heavy and rollly in the turns.
The SC V6 will make more sense when and if they make the LR4 with an aluminum frame. 100 pounds = 10 hp is a good rule of thumb. If they can make the LR4 800 pounds lighter like the new RR and RRS, that is effectively 80 hp which is more than the 375 it has now.
Someone will make a tune shortly for the SC V6 which should get you back in the neighborhood of 375, just a matter of time. The jaguar side will probably figure it out first. Then it is just a few tweaks to make the tune work with the LR4 which has different needs for hp and torque than a pasenger car.
The SC V6 will make more sense when and if they make the LR4 with an aluminum frame. 100 pounds = 10 hp is a good rule of thumb. If they can make the LR4 800 pounds lighter like the new RR and RRS, that is effectively 80 hp which is more than the 375 it has now.
Someone will make a tune shortly for the SC V6 which should get you back in the neighborhood of 375, just a matter of time. The jaguar side will probably figure it out first. Then it is just a few tweaks to make the tune work with the LR4 which has different needs for hp and torque than a pasenger car.
#3
510HP, but torque is 461 (about 85 more than the V-8). Admittedly I want the power for passing, clear on-ramps and toll booth take offs. I do not plan to set a personal best slalom time.
I do like the idea of a an aluminum body, that would help. I just cannot conceive why Land Rover would go from 375HP/375 torque to 340HP/332 torque.
I do like the idea of a an aluminum body, that would help. I just cannot conceive why Land Rover would go from 375HP/375 torque to 340HP/332 torque.
#6
So I just spent a couple of hours driving a '14 LR4 up in the mountains of CO. It had more power than I could use. The supercharger helps here in CO. And the 8-speed tranny seemed to work great. I was pulling up a pretty strong mountain pass at 75, floored it to accelerate around a car and the RPM never went over 4500. When normally driving at 75-80 I was sitting around 2-2.5K RPM. Granted, I was not pulling a trailer nor was I heavily loaded as this was just a test drive. But it was much better than I expected. I went up and down over a handful of difficult mountain climbs (where truckers have huge issues) and had not problem driving 10-15 MPH over the speed limit on the way up.
#7
So I just spent a couple of hours driving a '14 LR4 up in the mountains of CO. It had more power than I could use. The supercharger helps here in CO. And the 8-speed tranny seemed to work great. I was pulling up a pretty strong mountain pass at 75, floored it to accelerate around a car and the RPM never went over 4500. When normally driving at 75-80 I was sitting around 2-2.5K RPM. Granted, I was not pulling a trailer nor was I heavily loaded as this was just a test drive. But it was much better than I expected. I went up and down over a handful of difficult mountain climbs (where truckers have huge issues) and had not problem driving 10-15 MPH over the speed limit on the way up.
#8
To be honest, I didn't notice. It didn't stand out. My current vehicle is a '14 Acura MDX. 6 cal w/ ECO mode (turns off half the cyls while not in use) and I don't notice the engine on that either. What I do notice with the '14 LR4 is the start/stop eco technology they have. You have to get used to it. Feels like a hybrid. And when you start there can be a brief hesitation. You can disable it but then you get a yellow caution light that it is disabled. I got used to it.
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