Timing chain tensioner and transmission jerk at 160,000 miles
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Timing chain tensioner and transmission jerk at 160,000 miles
I took my 2012 LR4 to the dealer this week to have the 150,000 mile service. I had been looking forward to bringing the car in for the transmission fluid change with the expectation that the service would correct the jerky 1st to 2nd shift that mainly occurred when the engine and transmission are cold. (There is also something of a “bump” in the transmission when slowing from 40mph and faster at a stop). The cost of the service was expected to be around $2,100 before taxes.
A few hours after drop off the service advisor called and said that the jerkiness in the transmission would not be corrected by the transmission fluid change. Apparently there was something more serious wrong and he felt it would be a waste of money to do the proscribed service. The price to overhaul the transmission would be in the neighborhood of $8,000. He went on to say that the front end of the engine was very noisy and he predicted an issue soon with the timing chain tensioner springs. That too was costly, also in the area of $8,000.
In his opinion, the car was not worth spending that much money on, though he admitted it was in great shape otherwise (interior and body). He offered to have the vehicle appraised so that I could sell it to a broker and move on. (If he had bothered to ask what I thought about all this I would have said “Don’t bother” since I've yet to see a dealer appraisal over $5,000). He called later to say the car was worth $3,000.
Here are my questions:
At this point I’m looking for an independent garage to do these services. Which one to do first? Putting it another way, if a tensioner chain were to break or the transmission were to implode (or whatever they do), which is more of an immediate concern? I’ve read a few posts about jerky Land Rover transmission being the result of needing a software update. Of course I would be thrilled if it were something so simple but that’s not usually how life works. I don’t think I’d have a garage I'm not familiar with do two major services since if it turns out they aren’t as competent as advertised.
I’m also debating whether to go to a garage that services all cars, or just European, or just English. Does it make a difference?
Any ideas on a reasonable price for each service?
A few hours after drop off the service advisor called and said that the jerkiness in the transmission would not be corrected by the transmission fluid change. Apparently there was something more serious wrong and he felt it would be a waste of money to do the proscribed service. The price to overhaul the transmission would be in the neighborhood of $8,000. He went on to say that the front end of the engine was very noisy and he predicted an issue soon with the timing chain tensioner springs. That too was costly, also in the area of $8,000.
In his opinion, the car was not worth spending that much money on, though he admitted it was in great shape otherwise (interior and body). He offered to have the vehicle appraised so that I could sell it to a broker and move on. (If he had bothered to ask what I thought about all this I would have said “Don’t bother” since I've yet to see a dealer appraisal over $5,000). He called later to say the car was worth $3,000.
Here are my questions:
At this point I’m looking for an independent garage to do these services. Which one to do first? Putting it another way, if a tensioner chain were to break or the transmission were to implode (or whatever they do), which is more of an immediate concern? I’ve read a few posts about jerky Land Rover transmission being the result of needing a software update. Of course I would be thrilled if it were something so simple but that’s not usually how life works. I don’t think I’d have a garage I'm not familiar with do two major services since if it turns out they aren’t as competent as advertised.
I’m also debating whether to go to a garage that services all cars, or just European, or just English. Does it make a difference?
Any ideas on a reasonable price for each service?
Last edited by Bullneck; 08-15-2020 at 11:06 PM.
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Thanks, Army. Frankly, the sign on his desk makes me a bit suspicious about the timing and motive behind that "appraisal!"
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i just got a quote for the timing chain from my local dealer an its 8k on a 2011 RR SC. I asked the best in class local independent and he said its the only job he wont touch and recommended i goto the dealer as they have tools that arent available to independents. all this guy does is work on rovers so im going to listen to him. not sure if its a cheaper job on the LR4. Lots of posts on this over at landroverworld.org
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i just got a quote for the timing chain from my local dealer an its 8k on a 2011 RR SC. I asked the best in class local independent and he said its the only job he wont touch and recommended i goto the dealer as they have tools that arent available to independents. all this guy does is work on rovers so im going to listen to him. not sure if its a cheaper job on the LR4. Lots of posts on this over at landroverworld.org
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Any good indie should be able to do the 5.0 timing job.
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