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Ah I'm assuming it was the Ingenium engine? They are known to have timing chain issues. Or was it the SC V6?
Originally Posted by Gmorris87
Ingenium, yes. When the truck initially died and I was researching the problem endlessly, I actually found/joined a facebook group dedicated to the Ingenium engine failure. Wild to consider it's so rampant, yet not properly acknowledged by LRNA. I'm sure there'll be a class action in time, if not already.
2020 Si6 never came with the Ingenium - 2017-2020 was the AJ126 S/C V6, 2021+ was the AJ200 4 cylinder, or AJ300 6 cylinder.
Either way, I would look at this as reinforcement of way shorter oil change intervals (5-8k) just to eliminate any variables.
I had an L322 5.0L V8 which suffered a catastrophic failure, the rear crossover pipe failed and dumped all of the coolant.It happened at 140K miles. I was not driving at the time and would have pulled over immediately. Unfortunately the person who was driving kept doing so until "restricted performance" popped up - 20 minutes later. The engine was literally toast.
we're having the exact same problem this week. Took the car for a service and left with it still seemingly rattling. I mentioned something to the mechanic and he said it was fine. Pulled out of the garage and the car made the loudest rattle noise and then completely cut out.
long story short they said once they had done the oil change it had led to a while somewhere which is causing an oil leak and we need a new engine.
Thank you.
They have not identified what happened. Just said the engine is gone and they found metal shavings in the pan. Have not provided any diagnostic.
Maintenance was all good. Serviced to 35k miles with LR under warranty, then by an outside service. Presently only 51,000 miles.
Curious how this turned out? Any support from JLR toward the replacement?
Discovery v we had our first catastrophic engine failure at 60k. We had a new engine
Originally Posted by Gmorris87
In attempt to keep this brief, I'll get right to it.
Hi,
we had our first catastrophic engine failure at 60k. We had a new engine installed at Inchcape LR Guildford just over two years ago. It has done about 20k and the new engine has now failed. We were in Portugal at the time and couldn't get home. JLR have done nothing despite asking us to xarry out 3 diagnosics as well as requesting the engine was stripped and videos taken at a cist of £1000. They have said that no good will gesture will be hiven.
so angry!
kind regards
Chadgot/had a 2020 si6 Discovery V which I absolutely love/d and took great care of. It could've been pulled into a showroom and sold as a new car if you never checked the odometer! Without fail, it received an oil change every 12-15k miles, along with lube, filters, etc. It currently has 70,000 miles on the clock.
Driving home on a Thursday evening (8~ miles) I noticed an intermittent rattling or vibration like sound coming from the engine compartment. Only happened at highway speeds and would self-correct after 10 or so seconds. Without any depth of knowledge, I thought it sounded like a loose nut/bolt perhaps. Parked the car for the night.
The next day I was out running local errands (5~ miles of driving), the truck began misfiring horribly - to the point where I immediately aborted what plans I had and attempted to return home. The check engine light came on, so I instead drove directly to my local mechanic shop (3-4 miles).
Summarizing, from the onset of the rattling noise to dropping the vehicle at the mechanics shop, I drove about 15 miles, 4 miles post engine light. This all progressed at an incredible rate.
Mechanic spent a day or so with the truck and informed me it looked bad. They reccomended I get the car to my local Land Rover dealer for further diagnosis so I had it towed there. Land Rover called me the next day to inform me the truck needed a full engine replacement + two cat converters + misc at a cost of $60,000+. Obviously, this totals out the truck.
I've read countless blogs/forums/articles about the Disco V needing engine replacement at a wildly premature age. I've read about Consumer Protection laws which may help in the sense that a well maintained car of this value it is expected to perform far beyond this general age. Again, there is no known cause for this engine failure however i suspect it was a result of a huge timing chain issue (rattling noise was chain, maybe?).
My contact at Land Rover said he is willing to "fight like hell" for me in attempting to seek assistance from Land Rover Goodwill. However, I am not at all optimistic understanding that even a 50% discount, would basically still total the car. With that said, I'm also preparing my attorney - just to have him on standby should LRNA neglect to step in, as expected.
This is an outrageous failure on a vehicle that is expected to last.
Has anyone here ever had any issues comparable or the same? If so, any insight is MUCH appreciated. Beyond that, has anyone here ever had any experience with Land Rover goodwill for service/parts? Any tips?
Thank you all in advance, very much appreciate any help/insight ya can offer.
we had our first catastrophic engine failure at 60k. We had a new engine installed at Inchcape LR Guildford just over two years ago. It has done about 20k and the new engine has now failed. We were in Portugal at the time and couldn't get home. JLR have done nothing despite asking us to xarry out 3 diagnosics as well as requesting the engine was stripped and videos taken at a cist of £1000. They have said that no good will gesture will be hiven.
I'm currently in the throws of this issue debating responsibility with JLR. My 2019 LR5 (3.0 diesel) serviced routinely experienced a seized engine and requires a replacement costing $50k USD! As someone already commented, significantly more than the value of the vehicle. JLR will cover 70% on the inflated costs leaving me with the balance. Basically I've determined that the customer is actually bearing the true costs.
Simple research indicates issues with DFP and city driving. I'm not a mechanic but apparently a lot of these issues stem from the emissions add ons that cause the engine to fail. To effectively clear a DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter), most vehicles require a sustained speed of at least 40mph to initiate a regeneration cycle, which is the process that burns off accumulated soot within the filter; this typically involves driving at a consistent speed on a highway to reach the necessary engine temperature and RPM to complete the regeneration process.
Like others posted, JLR is not acknowledging the root cause requiring me to source the investigation myself. Of course, when you're already on the hole for $50k spending more to identify why is not a consideration.
Has anyone investigated class action lawsuits given the frequency of this issue and significant costs incurred by the public?
My wife had a 2018 range rover sport with only 47,000 miles on it.
She was land rover for life type lady that treated her car like her baby. All maintenance at dealership.
Driving on busy highway the coolant crossover pipes cracked. Lost all coolant on highway. Without warning car overheated began smoking and was undrivable (dangerous).
range rover knows about defective coolant pipes. There is even a class action over it. They offered us 3k for the car as a trade to buy another.
The looks are great but we will never buy one again. I wont ever trust that car or the company again.
Last edited by Crossover pipe default; Feb 27, 2025 at 01:15 PM.
My wife had a 2018 range rover sport with only 47,000 miles on it.
She was land rover for life type lady that treated her car like her baby. All maintenance at dealership.
Driving on busy highway the coolant crossover pipes cracked. Lost all coolant on highway. Without warning car overheated began smoking and was undrivable (dangerous).
range rover knows about defective coolant pipes. There is even a class action over it. They offered us 3k for the car as a trade to buy another.
The looks are great but we will never buy one again. I wont ever trust that car or the company again.
yes it was a gas engine. Yeaterday i joined a class action against land rover over this issue. Apparently they are aware of the defective crossover pipes but do not choose to do a recall.
Last edited by Crossover pipe default; Feb 28, 2025 at 08:50 AM.
