Too funny for words .............. inevitable
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Baja
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I'm not sure if my lack of reaction to this news is cynicism or not but since the story broke I've been struggling to understand why its a big deal. (To clarify, because I assume that all of the manufactures are actively engaged in this behavior)
Ever motorcycle I've ever owned with Fuel injection was mapped to be way too lean in the RPM rev range where the regulating body would test the emissions output of the engine during certification. Every single bike. (I've purchased 10 fuel injected bikes over the years).
There's a whole industry out there in restoring the flat spot in performance due to new motorcycles being leaned out in order to pass emissions. Or, you can get the dealer to remap you to the "track only" fuel map which also rectifies the hole in your mapping.
I'm not sure how the VW case is that much different. The test conducted to measure emissions is not conducted under "real world driving conditions". If the test were more representative of real world driving then the employment of different algorithms to reduce or improve emissions based off of real world situation could also be measured.
Ever motorcycle I've ever owned with Fuel injection was mapped to be way too lean in the RPM rev range where the regulating body would test the emissions output of the engine during certification. Every single bike. (I've purchased 10 fuel injected bikes over the years).
There's a whole industry out there in restoring the flat spot in performance due to new motorcycles being leaned out in order to pass emissions. Or, you can get the dealer to remap you to the "track only" fuel map which also rectifies the hole in your mapping.
I'm not sure how the VW case is that much different. The test conducted to measure emissions is not conducted under "real world driving conditions". If the test were more representative of real world driving then the employment of different algorithms to reduce or improve emissions based off of real world situation could also be measured.
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Baja
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The plot thickens, now all of the VW group are under investigation, VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Bentley 
, VW commercial and they are looking into other manufacturers lines of cars and vans. The Genie is out of the bottle 
, VW commercial and they are looking into other manufacturers lines of cars and vans. The Genie is out of the bottle
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Baja
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Baja
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Nowhere to hide for ALL the car manufacturers, I have a hatrick of diesels, but do I care ............... not one bit ................ will I lose any sleep ............. not a nano second.
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests - Bloomberg Business
Carmaker Cheating on Emissions Almost as Old as Pollution Tests - Bloomberg Business
Baja
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according to today's wall-street if was only 2 engineers at VW that did it all, Audis chief engineer and Porsche engineer, they felt bad that they could meet the US market so they gaffed the reports. Sure Two guys did it all by themselves, because they felt bad they could meet their goal. what a load of BS
Recovery Vehicle
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according to today's wall-street if was only 2 engineers at VW that did it all, Audis chief engineer and Porsche engineer, they felt bad that they could meet the US market so they gaffed the reports. Sure Two guys did it all by themselves, because they felt bad they could meet their goal. what a load of BS
I'll be stunned if most of the manufacturers are not gaming emissions tests.
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hello i cant find a place to right the thread to ask this question. I have a 2011 range rover hse. its in the shop due to the recall on the brake lines. they are saying the driver side rear caliber needs replaced because the bleed screw is leaking. They cant replace the screw? The entire caliber needs replaced? they want to to charge me for brake fluid flush and to bleed the brakes. wont they need to bleed them because they changed the brake lines?
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