19" Wheel Tire Choice
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Is is? Maybe. I mean, * sigh * I think I've told the story here before but I was never so certain it was true until today.
When we ordered our 2020 110 we thought long and hard about how we were going to use it. But being complete newbies to LR we assumed the 19" wheel would be better than the 20" for additional sidewall AND considering the primary off-road use would be beach/dunes for the OBX place we figured more street oriented tires would be better than the Off-Road ones. Back at that early part of the ordering process we figured out a way to get the locking diffs and terrain management stuff but still get the Pirellis. So we went out of our way to avoid the off-road tires.
Anyway - seeing the Pirellis in person gave me pause. Man that wasn't a lot of tread to begin with. But early usage in the sand proved the Defender just doesn't care. It was effortless through the hot, deep, sugar-sand in a way that even my JKU (with a Trac-Lok LSD and, at the time, chunky M/Ts) couldn't match. I mean the JKU gets the job done just fine, but the Defender was effortless. It was pretty amazing.
And then we got caught in a VT blizzard and had about 50 miles in more than a foot of unplowed snow and on untreated roads to get to the NYS border. I was terrified knowing I was on those Pirellis. But damnit if it didn't miss a beat. I had absolutely no problem (though I was quite conservative at times seeing others spun off the road).
I was really put off when in the first month or so the wife managed to put a hole in one of the tires WITH A PIECE OF GRAVEL FROM OUR DRIVEWAY. But we had four brand new ones and I said screw it and bought another. I've been diligently going with a 5 tire rotation to make them last. Hell it was just 2 days after the last rotation when Jenn picked up a "spike" of some sort in her tire (her description, I didn't see it) on the way to the hospital the other night. The LR mobile assistance guy patched it and then found the sidewall had torn. That's it. I didn't care how much tread was left I'm throwing them all away.
We went back and forth between these and the Duratracs. And your post gave me pause about these. According to Tire Rack these have a higher speed rating, same traction rating, and double the wear rating than the Duratracs. According to Goodyear's own website these might be better in the snow and wet too. I dunno. * shrugs * I'll find out this winter. And if we made another damn mistake, then I'll just suck it up, throw away another set, and try the Duratracs.
We'll find out when we find out. Can't see it from my porch (my JKU w/ the BFG KO2s).
that was good to hear. I appreciate you feeding my confirmation bias 
Nice Blue! Sometimes wonder if we should have ordered THAT too.
When we ordered our 2020 110 we thought long and hard about how we were going to use it. But being complete newbies to LR we assumed the 19" wheel would be better than the 20" for additional sidewall AND considering the primary off-road use would be beach/dunes for the OBX place we figured more street oriented tires would be better than the Off-Road ones. Back at that early part of the ordering process we figured out a way to get the locking diffs and terrain management stuff but still get the Pirellis. So we went out of our way to avoid the off-road tires.
Anyway - seeing the Pirellis in person gave me pause. Man that wasn't a lot of tread to begin with. But early usage in the sand proved the Defender just doesn't care. It was effortless through the hot, deep, sugar-sand in a way that even my JKU (with a Trac-Lok LSD and, at the time, chunky M/Ts) couldn't match. I mean the JKU gets the job done just fine, but the Defender was effortless. It was pretty amazing.
And then we got caught in a VT blizzard and had about 50 miles in more than a foot of unplowed snow and on untreated roads to get to the NYS border. I was terrified knowing I was on those Pirellis. But damnit if it didn't miss a beat. I had absolutely no problem (though I was quite conservative at times seeing others spun off the road).
I was really put off when in the first month or so the wife managed to put a hole in one of the tires WITH A PIECE OF GRAVEL FROM OUR DRIVEWAY. But we had four brand new ones and I said screw it and bought another. I've been diligently going with a 5 tire rotation to make them last. Hell it was just 2 days after the last rotation when Jenn picked up a "spike" of some sort in her tire (her description, I didn't see it) on the way to the hospital the other night. The LR mobile assistance guy patched it and then found the sidewall had torn. That's it. I didn't care how much tread was left I'm throwing them all away.
We went back and forth between these and the Duratracs. And your post gave me pause about these. According to Tire Rack these have a higher speed rating, same traction rating, and double the wear rating than the Duratracs. According to Goodyear's own website these might be better in the snow and wet too. I dunno. * shrugs * I'll find out this winter. And if we made another damn mistake, then I'll just suck it up, throw away another set, and try the Duratracs.
We'll find out when we find out. Can't see it from my porch (my JKU w/ the BFG KO2s).
that was good to hear. I appreciate you feeding my confirmation bias Nice Blue! Sometimes wonder if we should have ordered THAT too.
Here's a close up of my tire from the other day after doing some (what I would consider) hard, rocky trails (including a dry waterfall which gave my smash plate a nice kiss). You can kind of see the marks on the sidewall where it was up against/squished up to rock. I'm very happy with them so far with 100+ miles of desert/trail running.
All that being said, if the ATs hadnt come on the car I probably would have gotten the Duratracs because of the more aggressive tread pattern.
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Im looking at them on my truck right now. Goodyear wrangler all-terrain adventure. Mine are in 20 inch, but I think its the same tire youre talking about. That would also be the tire in the infamous The Fast Lane video where they blew two of them, albeit with lower pressure than you are supposed to run.
But like I said, if we start getting flats on these like the Pirellis... then the Duratracs will be next.
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