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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 10:17 AM
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I would personally stick with the order even without all of those. The vehicle is that good tbh.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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I would still get it, or maybe try and find a floor model still available somewhere. Of the options listed, the only one I’d care about is the clearsight. I find it extremely useful because even if the cargo area is empty, rear vision through the window is awful with the tire taking up a good part of the view, and the window so far back. It’s not useful for reversing, and you have cameras for that, but is essential if you fill the car up, and gives a much wider view on the highway. Reduces blind spot significantly. My eyes have no problem focusing on it.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CombatNinja
Clearsight mirror is stupid. I have it and never use it, I don't like the focal length discord. When you look into a real mirror, your mind perceives the objects to be the correct distance away and your eyes focus normally. Clearsight messes with that and I hate it.

HUD is kind of useful (had it in several BMWs) but mostly for keeping constant awareness of speed in a seriously quick car. I don't have that problem in the Defender so I don't miss it.

11.4" vs 10" would make no difference to me. I think the 10" in mine looks about 'right' for the interior.
Respectfully disagree on all fronts! I have and use both, HUD in particular is a must have for me. I have the 10" screen but would have preferred the bigger one.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 12:28 PM
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I just received an email from my dealer saying North America did not receive any 2.0 liter engine allocations this month and they do not foresee any in the future. Looking like I may be canceling my 2023 110s order.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 12:53 PM
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Keep your order but keep an eye out for available vehicles to purchase on the dealer lot, sometimes they are cancelled orders by customers. Everyone has their own preferences, but I really like the Driver interactive display and the larger center screen. I test drove one with the smaller screen a few months ago and it seemed too small for me.
The HUD is nice but with my polarized sunglasses I can't see it anyway during the day. The Clearsight mirror I'm still trying to get used to after 1 week of ownership. I see the benefits of it, but getting used to it is tough on my eyes.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Yep. I ended up bagging on an order, and buying a slightly used one because I didn't want to pay 97K for something that was a roll of the dice in terms of features and functionality... I don't like surprises. Also ... the wait! (I'd say not knowing spec was 70% of the reason, and then the wait was 30% of the reason). Knowing exact spec is important to me.

They're out there. If you do choose to get used, just know I got **exactly** the build spec that I had originally wanted, albeit a model year older.
 

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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neildesai03
it says on the itemized bill “TFT instrument cluster” does that mean it was downgraded from the interactive driver display?
Believe so, you were downgraded from the interactive display to this. You will have to grill your dealer for a definite answer, they are grimy and act like they weren't aware. They're aware....

https://editorial.pxcrush.net/carsal...683&aspect=pad
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 02:49 PM
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Received a call from my dealer and JLR just told them North America did not receive any allocations for the 2.0L engine in January and doesn't foresee this engine in the future. Guess I may be canceling my 2023 110s
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 03:54 PM
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I got my order confirmed for my 90S. As others have stated Clearsight is not available and the instrument panel is down graded to the Analog/digital display. My build is set for 2/25 with a delivery date of 5/6. It is currently showing the larger display screen as part of the build, but we will see if it holds. I'm not too bummed about the deletions because I opted for a lesser build to begin with. As another poster stated, I think the smaller display looks more integrated and I opted for no pano roof. Also, it's just my Wife and myself so the rear seats will be folded down 90% of the time. I would have much preferred the full digital driver's display, but I figure with the Pangea Green, White roof, and White steelies, maybe the analog gauges will add to the somewhat retro look.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2022 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by neildesai03
I ordered a 2023 Defender in the US. I built the truck online and when I put in my deposit they said it all looked good. Since then the dealership has reached out to me to tell me I cannot have the ClearSight mirror, the heads up display and now the latest victim, the 11.4 inch screen has been downgraded to an 10 inch due to the chip shortage. Has anyone else experienced these issues? Do you think the car is even worth purchasing if I cannot have the features I wanted. Thanks and I hope too many haven’t experienced the same bad luck.
I customized a P300 110s my22 in November of 2021 and that missed the last order call for my22. I then attempted to order the same for my23. Should have been ok. However, I also got a call on Wednesday saying they are not allocating any P300s to order for my23. They are only taking orders for the V6 and 8s and will not be building any p300s anytime soon. The P400s are not going to be delivered until July. JLR is so far behind and is unable to source parts. Looks like we are all in the same boat one way or another.
 
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