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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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Hello everyone. I have been towing my 23' travel trailer with my Defender 110, and the Defender tows it pretty well; however, it does not have air suspension and there is some trailer sag. The trailer has a tongue weight of about 580 pounds and when my gear is in the trailer it's a bit under 5,000 pounds in total. Are there any aftermarket options for adding some air bags to the rear for leveling when towing? I have of course done some searching on the internets but I have not found anything. Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Falkor
Hello everyone. I have been towing my 23' travel trailer with my Defender 110, and the Defender tows it pretty well; however, it does not have air suspension and there is some trailer sag. The trailer has a tongue weight of about 580 pounds and when my gear is in the trailer it's a bit under 5,000 pounds in total. Are there any aftermarket options for adding some air bags to the rear for leveling when towing? I have of course done some searching on the internets but I have not found anything. Thanks!
I want to say that it’s possible to do, because my brother in law added air bags to his truck for that specific purpose (level towing). I’ll see if I can dig up who did that work and if it’s generally available on other vehicle setups (unibody, etc)
 
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wlindsey@gmail.com
I want to say that it’s possible to do, because my brother in law added air bags to his truck for that specific purpose (level towing). I’ll see if I can dig up who did that work and if it’s generally available on other vehicle setups (unibody, etc)
Thanks! It’s a pretty common thing to do and there are kits for quite a few trucks and SUV’s, I just have not found any for our Defenders.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 04:41 AM
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I suggest a WD hitch
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 07:22 AM
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I suggest a WD hitch
I thought the consensus was to not use a WD hitch with Defenders? I guess I need to look into it more, thanks!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 07:28 AM
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I thought the consensus was to not use a WD hitch with Defenders? I guess I need to look into it more, thanks!
Not suggested when you have air suspension. It is ok for coils. I run one often.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 11:10 AM
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Thanks! It’s a pretty common thing to do and there are kits for quite a few trucks and SUV’s, I just have not found any for our Defenders.
turns out my BIL’s solution was vehicle specific as you suggested. I was totally unfamiliar with that as an option - sorry but I couldn’t find any defender specific solutions either.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wlindsey@gmail.com
turns out my BIL’s solution was vehicle specific as you suggested. I was totally unfamiliar with that as an option - sorry but I couldn’t find any defender specific solutions either.
Thank you very much for looking!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Honestly -- just sell it and get one with Air. The difference for towing is quite noticeable and I think it's much safer (sorry for those of you with coils on your Deefers, not saying they are inferior for offloading, onroading, but I would give the feedback that air suspension is better for towing).

I've driven both a P300 110 w/ coils and P400 110 w/ air, with tow rigs behind ....and after years of air suspension vehicles, I wouldn't not have leveling air suspension on a tow vehicle.

Side note: My 'use case' is normally vintage cars (80's Porsches, maybe an old M3, old M-B) on aluminum car hauler trailers - to give you an idea of what I'm usually towing.

Edit: thought of this after I posted. Or just get the aftermarket kit / springs like you're asking about, but I'm not yet aware of a good option for the L663. Haven't really looked either but likely a bit of a compromise.
 
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