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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ehloo
well we lucky Californias are peeking $6 a gallon already. those that have the ability to buy a v8 kind of know what we are getting into

i guess you making the comment Stupid Defender means you don’t have one
No, I have one. It is kind of stupid. The V8 is even stupider. A V8 at $20,000 over MSRP is incredibly stupid.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 08:02 PM
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so what exactly is stupid about it. not saying it’s the perfect car but most are really enjoying it. It did win Motrotrend 2021 SUV of the year



Originally Posted by CombatNinja
No, I have one. It is kind of stupid. The V8 is even stupider. A V8 at $20,000 over MSRP is incredibly stupid.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 08:05 PM
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While I don't necessarily disagree with your points here around time, the difference to your example is that no one will sell you stock worth $200/share at $100 a share if you wait 6-12 months. This is 100% true with cars and watches.

I love my V8 so far, not sure what's stupid about it. Curious to hear
 
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Old Mar 3, 2022 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CombatNinja
No, I have one. It is kind of stupid. The V8 is even stupider. A V8 at $20,000 over MSRP is incredibly stupid.
I think we each define stupid in different ways.

I paid up for my Defender V8. I did so because I want the experience now and do not wish to wait a year for it. I'm paying for the experience, not the car.

Stupid, for me, would be settling for something that I don't want when I can afford to make the trade. The other side of the coin is the previous car trade-in value is also grossly inflated.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2022 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ehloo
i disagree on your comment on new construction and prices released by builders being considered “msrp” I am somewhat in this field and those prices are driven by the market and demand. Msrp is based on cost and profit margins. Although it might sound similar i have seen builders dramatically raise prices. cost have gone up but they are just maximizing profits and pricing to the market. why not

Msrp is not driven by market and demand.

don’t get me wrong. i agree with your comments. Shoot, i paid over for my V8 and not thinking twice about my decision. I am not complaining about the over msrp market we are living in. Just an interesting time to see a a well known depreciating asset go the other way around. Market/demand is dictating prices. One can wait and hope one day their dealer gets the allocation and purchase at Msrp. the way things sound the 5.0 Supercharge V8 will be a thing of the past and even more collectible

But i would personally not pay over on a watch. I have never purchased a watch from anybody beside a dealer. Sometimes i have to spend way more than i want on other items to get the actual desired watch. The watch market is hugely inflated like everything else. feels great for those that a have collection but if you don’t ever sell the current market value doesn’t mean much


either way i enjoy the discussion and perspective
I feel like everyone just beats around the elephant in the room. A $ is no longer what it used to be as we pumped out 30% of all dollars ever in circulation of its 200 year history in 1 year ….
when everyone has money no one has money
 
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