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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AVLDefender
You are correct. The second row seats fold down differently in an 7 seater than they do in an 5 seater. Although another member made a cool camping set up with some boards that pieced together to make a flat surface in a 7 seater for their kids to sleep on when camping.
Thanks for your help. Bad design then on JLR’s part. Not having a flat floor in this type of vehicle is a miss. And why they couldn’t make it happen is beyond me, because I currently have a Disco V with 3rd row and with all the seats folded down, it is flat as a pancake in the back - so it can be done. Thanks again.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 01:19 AM
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I have a 2022 90 p400

The rear seats are a joke since they just take up useable space in this truck..

I tore mine out and made a proper flat floor two seater..



 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 04:30 PM
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Ronin- The inside of your 90 looks great. I did the exact same thing to mine about 2 years ago when I first got my 90 and love it. I do have a question about the seatbelts that I hope you can help with.

When I removed the rear seats, I initially had an airbag warning light due the middle seatbelt which is integrated into the seat. Once I realized why the light was on, I did a little surgery and had to remove the center belt assembly, plug it back into the wiring harness, and tuck it all away under the storage floor. Because of that, I never removed the two outer seatbelts that are attached to the rear body on each side of the tailgate/door. I would like them gone, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble if I was going to have to keep them plugged in and tucked away behind the interior panel. I see you took yours out -- did you ever get a warning light? And if so, did you have to plug the belts back in and hide them -- or did you figure out a way to bypass it?
 

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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by robn
Ronin- The inside of your 90 looks great. I did the exact same thing to mine about 2 years ago when I first got my 90 and love it. I do have a question about the seatbelts that I hope you can help with.

When I removed the rear seats, I initially had a seatbelt warning light because the middle seatbelt which is integrated into the seat. Once I realized why the light was on, I did a little surgery and had to remove the center belt assembly, plug it back into the wiring harness, and tuck it all away under the storage floor. Because of that, I never removed the two outer seatbelts that are attached to the rear body on each side of the tailgate/door. I would like them gone, but figured it wasn't worth the trouble if I was going to have to keep them plugged in and tucked away behind the interior panel. I see you took yours out -- did you ever get a warning light? And if so, did you have to plug the belts back in and hide them -- or did you figure out a way to bypass it?
I removed the belts and left the plugs just hangin. No warning lights at all..
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 04:36 PM
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Good to know, I'll give it a try this weekend and hope its the same. Thanks for the reply!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 06:54 PM
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Well, I finally got around to pulling the side panels and unplugging the seatbelt retractors (yellow plug) for the two outermost rear seatbelts on my 90, and I'll be damned if I got another airbag warning light -- just like I did when I removed the center belt a year or so ago. I assumed this would be the case, but I just can't figure out why mine gives the warning lights but yours and others does not.

EDIT: Just ordered some 2.2 ohm bypass resistors. We'll see if those do the trick this weekend. If not, rear seatbelts will be going back in.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 05:43 PM
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One last follow-up in case it's helpful to others and then I'll spare you from any more of my seatbelt drama. I installed the
cheap airbag resistors cheap airbag resistors
in the seatbelt plugs and THEY WORK! No more airbag light. No more rear seatbelts. No more posts from me about it. Case closed





 
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