"Last but not least, Ineos is also plotting a larger luxury model. It won’t be a brand-new development but will instead take the form of a heavily upgraded and luxed-up version of the Grenadier."

https://www.motor1.com/news/651424/i...w-models-2030/

 

Went out with the kids yesterday for some ‘off reading’ at one of our state parks. Mostly just some fire/access roads but we had fun none the less. Really wanted to spend some time playing with the lockers and engaging low range. Had to stop a few times to re-read the manual but think I have things figured out now. Happy to report that we survived our first major water crossing of 45-60mm! It’s a different experience from the Defender in that regard. I’m also a watch guy and I think the best way to describe it is the Grenadier is more along the lines of a Omega/Rolex mechanical watch while the Defender is more of an Apple/Garmin watch.

Merry Christmas to everyone!

 

Thanks for that comparison and analogy As a mechanical watch guy (don't get me started on that LOL) that analogy makes a lot of sense and one I hadn't considered when describing the Defender to friends and family. Here's to happy miles with the new rig!!

 

l think the Grenadier will last longer with owners as in, a car for life.

 

We'll see said the zen master. Garmin to Rolex...🙄

 

I wouldn't be so sure. Limited availability means limited parts regardless of how "utilitarian" they are. These will always be made in small numbers and therefore economically historical parts production will be challenging and second hand spares will hard to come by.

These are a great novelty but it's clear Land Rover made the right choice with the new Defender.

 

The technology comparison of Garmin to defender makes sense. Watch guy and also Fenix 7 owner here. But Grenadier a Rolex….HUGE eye roll. Mechanical. Yes…. That being said I wouldn’t worry about parts regardless of batch size. These trucks were designed with off the shelf stuff from what i understand.

 

Yeah, the same people that say the Defender is fancy luxury while the Grenadier is not... I guess the better analogy would be the ND is a digital Tag and the Grenadier is an analog Casio.
Largely parts are off the shelf but I have also read that means some concerns about the BMW sourced engine's durability. It apparently has a lot of plastic accessory parts and was not built for off-roading in mind so they either upgraded it, which means no parts full of shelves, or they didn't which means protential durability problems.

 

Saw my first one in the wild in Colorado Springs. From a distance I was like, is that....? And sure enough.

It was black with black rims, wasn't able to snap a pic but I loved the look of it. Made me wish I had put down a deposit a few years ago.

 

Seems that I touched a nerve with the watch brand analogy... Maybe it's because I can remember the days of pining for a Rolex Submariner when they were on the back of the National Geographic magazines. Seems to have become more of a status symbol now with their limiting supply strategies. The only Rolex I have now is the no-date Sub. What if we just compare the Grenadier to a Seiko diver?