Grenadier Experience and measurements to L663
#81
Over the last 3 weeks, Ineos has been doing a press tour in Scotland. Tomorrow the press embargo is lifted. Well it's tomorrow in AU,
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-rev...enadier-review
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-rev...enadier-review
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#84
Too expensive for what it is imo, it appears to be less capable on-road AND off-road than the current Defender while also being more expensive than a well equipped 110.
I’d be interested in a basic SWB at about $50K-$55K as my 90 S with air suspension, leather, cold weather pack, and sunroof came in at $65K. I can’t imagine paying almost twice as much for a vehicle that appears to be worse in every way; if my calculations are correct it has worse ground clearance and angles.
Hoping someone explains how I’m wrong because I do want to like it.
I’d be interested in a basic SWB at about $50K-$55K as my 90 S with air suspension, leather, cold weather pack, and sunroof came in at $65K. I can’t imagine paying almost twice as much for a vehicle that appears to be worse in every way; if my calculations are correct it has worse ground clearance and angles.
Hoping someone explains how I’m wrong because I do want to like it.
#85
Too expensive for what it is imo, it appears to be less capable on-road AND off-road than the current Defender while also being more expensive than a well equipped 110.
I’d be interested in a basic SWB at about $50K-$55K as my 90 S with air suspension, leather, cold weather pack, and sunroof came in at $65K. I can’t imagine paying almost twice as much for a vehicle that appears to be worse in every way; if my calculations are correct it has worse ground clearance and angles.
Hoping someone explains how I’m wrong because I do want to like it.
I’d be interested in a basic SWB at about $50K-$55K as my 90 S with air suspension, leather, cold weather pack, and sunroof came in at $65K. I can’t imagine paying almost twice as much for a vehicle that appears to be worse in every way; if my calculations are correct it has worse ground clearance and angles.
Hoping someone explains how I’m wrong because I do want to like it.
It's no bargain either, but the Grenadier doesn't appear to be extravagantly priced for that market. The quantity and price of its available accessories in particular makes me want to cry (of jealousy...) Factory rock sliders for about US$1100 after conversion? I paid more than twice that much for aftermarket ones for my Defender, voiding all types of warranties in the process.
Last edited by umbertob; 02-07-2023 at 11:43 PM.
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jusmax88 (02-08-2023)
#86
The more time I review the data and drive my P300, the new Defender and the Grenadier are not comparable. The new Defender is more like a modern SUV while the Grenadier is more of an old-school truck. If you wanted to align it with a current vehicle than it would be a G wagon. And people have stated it rides better than a G wagon. People that will like it will be people looking for something that has less convenience but less likely to have a fault code that makes you sit on side of the road. I am not saying the new defender is not reliable but we all know when a gremlin pops up that it tends to be a bigger headache.
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TrioLRowner (02-15-2023)
#87
I placed my advanced deposit a year ago this month; I'm definitely looking forward to driving it. At the time I placed the order I'd had the Defender about 7 months and if the Grenadier had been available right then I'd probably have done the deal right away. But now, I've gotten much more used to the Landie and its off-road capabilities and I'm not so sure. It will be an interesting decision, that's for sure. If they ever actually arrive.
By the way, review in Autoweek today:
Grenadier is Headed to America
By the way, review in Autoweek today:
Grenadier is Headed to America
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MattF (02-08-2023)
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I like the way it looks outside but the interior gives me anxiety and appears to have been designed by someone with zero experience in user interfaces.
I do like the pre-wired accessory switches (and wish that the Defender had them) and the more comprehensive accessory list. But It's hard to see living with 947 manual switches in the interior if you are not also a pilot.
I do like the pre-wired accessory switches (and wish that the Defender had them) and the more comprehensive accessory list. But It's hard to see living with 947 manual switches in the interior if you are not also a pilot.
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jusmax88 (02-08-2023)
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For instance, I built my own "Willycon" Jeep by taking my ****** beyond what a Rubicon comes with, including front and rear locking D44 axles. The lockers I wired to two simple lighted rocker switches labeled Front and Rear. Could operate them by feel, in the dark, when concentrating on the toughest terrain in Moab. But a stock Rubicon operates both lockers with one switch, if I recall correctly; I've rented them and it annoyed me so much. You push the button once to activate either front or rear, and you don't even know which until the dash light tells you which one it was. Then another push activates the other one, a 3rd push turns one off and a 4th push turns the other one off. SOmething like that. It's not intuitive and you have to pay attention to it. Give me two switches instead and charge me $4 more MSRP to cover the cost, ya cheap bastards!