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Old 12-29-2023, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Corsa
The Grenadier forum is great. It's a smaller community but consists of members from all over the world, it's interesting to hear their take on the vehicle and see (and be jealous of) some of the unique environments they're driving in and through.

Regarding the height of the vehicle I'd say it's similar to the height of the Defender when raised to the higher setting. I optioned the side steps for the same reason as others - wife is on the shorter side and I find I actually use them some to get in so I'm not constantly squishing the seat side bolster. Wasn't too fond of the rear seat folding situation originally but I've found that I have much more storage in the rear compartment in the Grenadier. With my Defender I'd always have 3/4 passenger seat down so I could carry around everything for work. With the Grenadier the volume is much higher (not sure what the actual volume number is) so I can store the equivalent amount of things with the seats still up.

I actually had a harder time selling my Defender HSE than I would have thought. Unfortunately, or rightfully so, we're now back to the normal times of car depreciation. Had I sold my car a year ago I'd have probably gotten close to what I bought it for. This was the tag line of a recent article - The search term "give back car" is exploding on Google Trends, indicating a growing trend of people wanting to eliminate their huge car payments. Auto loan delinquency rates have reached the highest level since 1994, indicating a concerning trend in the market.

Not to say the Grenadier is a perfect car but I'm still enjoying it.
So funny to pop over there and see a bunch of people complaining about their issues... seems like a theme of forums more than issues with Defenders or Grenadiers.
 
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Old 12-29-2023, 06:07 PM
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What am I missing? A Defender 110 has about 10% more cargo capacity than a Grenadier.
 
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Old 12-29-2023, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Yulongtd6
So funny to pop over there and see a bunch of people complaining about their issues... seems like a theme of forums more than issues with Defenders or Grenadiers.
Every auto forum is like this
 
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What am I missing? A Defender 110 has about 10% more cargo capacity than a Grenadier.
Yeah, I don’t know where people are getting that. “The Grenadier holds as much with the seats up as a 110 does with the seats folded???” This I gotta see.
 
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Originally Posted by BD1
Every forum is like this
Fixed that for you.
 
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Old 12-30-2023, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by xplore
Nice Jeep! I removed the rear seat from my 2-door the day I brought it home.
Thanks! I waited till Day 2 — took my best friends out to dinner Night 1, made the wives ride in the back. We had a lot of laughs, then I took the seat out Morning 2 and sold it. I actually have a cargo cover in place, so there’s an actual locking trunk.


 
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Old 12-30-2023, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
Yeah, I don’t know where people are getting that. “The Grenadier holds as much with the seats up as a 110 does with the seats folded???” This I gotta see.
It’s the usable space in the rear cargo area that makes a difference for me. The Grenadier is basically a squared off box with a larger rear door opening and vertical space. Wish I still had my Defender to take side by side pics with the same cargo - all I can tell you is that the same load of plastic totes fits in the Grenadier with the back seats up vs the Defender where I had to put the seats down. If you’re familiar with the rear cargo arena on the previous generation GWagon you’ll find that it’s similar, could be the vertical height as well. Pulled the info below from an earlier post on this thread.


Interior Cargo Dimension versus Defender(inches)

Height: Defender 35 at the door and 37 from ceiling/Grenadier 39 at the door 42 at ceiling

Width: Narrow portion between wheel wells: Defender 45/ Grenadier 42(they are talking about making it wider)

Upper portion above wheel wells: Defender 52.5/Grenadier58

Rear Seat cushion to Door: Defender 61.5/Grenadier 68

Broadest between windows Grenadier 60/64

Rear Seat to the door Defender 34.5/Grenadier 36


And that’s a nice Jeep! I have many fond memories of tooling around in my two door Jeep when I was younger. There’s just something about driving with the doors off that’s hard to explain to anyone that hasn’t experienced it.
 

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Old 12-30-2023, 08:48 AM
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Ineos says the Grenadier around 71 cubic feet of cargo capacity and according to Land Rover the 110 up to 78 cubic feet.
 
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And that’s a nice Jeep! I have many fond memories of tooling around in my two door Jeep when I was younger. There’s just something about driving with the doors off that’s hard to explain to anyone that hasn’t experienced it.
Thanks! I’m stoked about having it back since June. And in that photo it has the wimpy 34s I had on it for my first time taking it to Moab in 2016. It got hung up (high-centered) in that photo and I had to winch it off that ledge. Subsequent trips with new suspension and these 37” bias plies have been much more satisfying. (I trailer them out from Atlanta behind the Jeep.)




 

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Stopped at a dealer here in CT today...Had about 20 of them on the ground. Was really, really impressed with the body weld just above the center of the rear driver-side door...Was not even ground down, just painted over like it was not even there. Ya just can't unsee stuff like that.....
 
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