I’m out, thank you
#12
#13
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
For what it’s worth, I have the base analog gauge and don’t feel like I’m missing anything. There is a smaller digital screen in the middle. It can show navigation directions and other info (though I pretty much just leave it in the driver info screen that shows MPH, music info, and lane keep).
I usually run Apple CarPlay from my phone on the main screen, so that’s my primary source.
But also understand the principle and frustration of having to wait. I was lucky to buy off the lot in March, so I’ve come to be happy with what was available rather than ordering to my specs.
I usually run Apple CarPlay from my phone on the main screen, so that’s my primary source.
But also understand the principle and frustration of having to wait. I was lucky to buy off the lot in March, so I’ve come to be happy with what was available rather than ordering to my specs.
#14
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
After recently getting a call from my dealer saying they would have to down grade the gauge screen. I’m officially calling it quits. I love technology so having it in an almost $82,000 truck is important to me. . Land Rover has not stated it would refund the difference between a full screen and the analogue cluster. They did say that if I waited that I run the risk of getting into the 2023 model year with the included price increase. Im surprised by their complete lack of customer service and fore thought in their building process. My build was originally P400 HSE and I’ve been waiting for months. I’m really disappointed but with the Rivian SUV coming out the middle of next year and the Jeep Grand Wagoneer coming to market I certainly have options. It stings but I admire this forums passion for the Defender and off roading. Peace
The following users liked this post:
_Allegedly (08-18-2021)
#15
#16
#17
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
As someone else noted, every manufacturer is having issues with certain components. Can only get a 200 watt base radio in a $75K BMW X5 40i right now. Now that's a deal breaker for me.
The following users liked this post:
ADVAW8S (08-19-2021)
#18
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
After recently getting a call from my dealer saying they would have to down grade the gauge screen. I’m officially calling it quits. I love technology so having it in an almost $82,000 truck is important to me. . Land Rover has not stated it would refund the difference between a full screen and the analogue cluster. They did say that if I waited that I run the risk of getting into the 2023 model year with the included price increase. Im surprised by their complete lack of customer service and fore thought in their building process. My build was originally P400 HSE and I’ve been waiting for months. I’m really disappointed but with the Rivian SUV coming out the middle of next year and the Jeep Grand Wagoneer coming to market I certainly have options. It stings but I admire this forums passion for the Defender and off roading. Peace
The following users liked this post:
PaulLR (08-19-2021)
#19
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
All car manufacturers (and their dealers are in disarray). Good luck getting your Rivian. If they can’t get solid state gauge cluster, they have no backup plan. At least Land Rover designed the Defender with analog and solid state displays. FWIW, you would not lose much if you went with analog. For all practical purposes, the full digital display gives you no more functionality. There are a lot of tech things in the defender I would miss if they had to be swapped out for old tech, but the center gauge cluster is not one of them.
The following users liked this post:
D-Fens (08-19-2021)
#20
![Default](https://landroverforums.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The sense of entitlement among some consumers is surprising to me. All manufacturers across industries have found themselves in a unique and challenging position; especially luxury goods because they're getting it from both ends. The supply chain is bottlenecked on the back-end, and on the front-end we have a wealth effect that is driving unprecedented demand. It's seems logical to accept that there may be impacts because of this.
My sense is that people need to chill out and not take things personally or be blinded by their self-important expectations. If losing the display is a deal-breaker, walk away - but to express such disdain for a brand that has it's hands tied is too narrow of a view for a lot of us.
Perhaps the solution is to take a non-digital delivery and put in an order for a replacement Defender when it's available (plus who knows what 2023 will make standard, might want to do that anyway!). At the end of the day, this isn't really a loss that dilutes the ethos, utility, or functionality of the car materially. Yes, the L663 is a hybrid of overland prowess and on-road utility, but perhaps the analog gauges are a nice nod the elder.
-Joe
My sense is that people need to chill out and not take things personally or be blinded by their self-important expectations. If losing the display is a deal-breaker, walk away - but to express such disdain for a brand that has it's hands tied is too narrow of a view for a lot of us.
Perhaps the solution is to take a non-digital delivery and put in an order for a replacement Defender when it's available (plus who knows what 2023 will make standard, might want to do that anyway!). At the end of the day, this isn't really a loss that dilutes the ethos, utility, or functionality of the car materially. Yes, the L663 is a hybrid of overland prowess and on-road utility, but perhaps the analog gauges are a nice nod the elder.
-Joe
Last edited by TheJMG; 08-19-2021 at 08:24 AM.