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Old May 24, 2022 | 07:14 AM
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I have no idea what a modern PCV valve looks like now but back in the day it was a little cylindrical doohickey that went in-line (like a fuel filter or something) into a rubber hose with a hose clamp on one side. It fed back into one of the valve covers. At any rate, it took a pair of pliers (for the spring-loaded hose clamp) and about 90 seconds to change it. At least on my bitchin’ Camero. I think I changed it every tune-up just to prolong the joy of working on my first car.





And no, that is not what the valve covers on my totally stock but still bitchin’ small-block Camero looked like.
 

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Old May 24, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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Seems straight forward. Biggest PITA is to move a few things to get to it. First the main diaphram is replaced after removing the air filter outlet hose. Never knew there was an "outlet" side of the air filter - I'll figure it out.



Then replace the two breather seals. One on left side of engine, one on the right. THAT is going to be the effort. As it appears like some things may have to be moved around first. Worse thing that could happen is that I F' it up and have to take it in to the Dealer for them to do under Warranty recall. "What's that you say, Mr. Service Writer? No way did I attempt to fix that! Why would I possibly try to work on something that you all can do for free? Me, I do all my mods to the exterior that you see. Someone reading a Topix manual must not have installed it correctly!"

There's a 99% chance in my mind that I will do it correctly. However, there's a 50/50 bet going on with myself whether it is as fast as I hope. If the TOPIx flat rate is 20 minutes, then my budget is 90...




 

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Old May 24, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GrouseK9
Seems straight forward. Biggest PITA is to move a few things to get to it. First the main diaphram is replaced after removing the air filter outlet hose. Never knew there was an "outlet" side of the air filter - I'll figure it out.



Then replace the two breather seals. One on left side of engine, one on the right. THAT is going to be the effort. As it appears like some things may have to be moved around first. Worse thing that could happen is that I F' it up and have to take it in to the Dealer for them to do under Warranty recall. "What's that you say, Mr. Service Writer? No way did I attempt to fix that! Why would I possibly try to work on something that you all can do for free? Me, I do all my mods to the exterior that you see. Someone reading a Topix manual must not have installed it correctly!"

There's a 99% chance in my mind that I will do it correctly. However, there's a 50/50 bet going on with myself whether it is as fast as I hope. If the TOPIx flat rate is 20 minutes, then my budget is 90...




Thanks for the pics and notes. I take notice of the warnings such as: ‘Make sure the seal is installed correctly’, and ‘Note the orientation of the components’. Makes me think that the poster who brought in a perfectly running vehicle only to receive it back exhibiting the exact symptoms that the replacement was supposed to ‘fix’ was a victim of a lackey mechanic who ‘effed’ up the install. Looking at all those components, it’s possible that adequate attention was not paid to the proper order of those parts when reinstalling. How else to explain his dilemma? It really is a simple job, especially for a trained mechanic, but we all see the level of competence these days. Heck, it’s hard to even get the right sandwich made these days, you ask for extra cheese, no onions and get home and find just the opposite. I will show these forum entries to my service advisor and gauge his reaction when I inform him that if I get my car back running worse than when I brought it in, a dark cloud will follow him for eternity. This is the guy who when I picked it up from a minor adjustment the day after delivery, pulled me aside and practically begged me for all 10’s on his performance review, suggesting his job would be on the line if he gets anything less. Well then, I expect all 10’s in the work being done. Going under the hood to scope out the situation and decide which route to go. Thanks.
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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I should have replaced it myself as well. I do all the work on all our out of warranty trucks,. Just this am check engine light came on after the recall was completed last week and it almost stalled out Last week as well. Was running fantastic for the past two years until this recall work was completed

Scheduled for later this week to have it fixed again
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Old May 24, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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@WTFChuck - Anyone who thinks that all mechanics are brilliantly skilled perfectionists have never spent time in a shop. They are ALL heavy handed, because if something breaks - the customer pays for it. If it's jacked up - the customer pays for it. Many/most are very experienced and professionals. But NO ONE takes care of a car like their own car. As a buddy once told me: "No one cares for you, like you". Except, maybe your Mom.... (NO one else).
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 10:02 AM
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Yeah, I called my mom about this but she’s booked through Labor Day.
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 11:03 AM
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NoGaBiker__I think I would probably trust your Mom to replace it over some of these mechanics.
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gurka01
Did you find out the cause. Same thing with me, truck running great, took it in for something else but they did this recall as well and now it runs as you described
According to the dealer ...hose clamp on the intake was deteriorated ...this was causing the truck to run lean. They re-secured the hose ...cleared codes and tested

So far ...all is fine
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eb21
According to the dealer ...hose clamp on the intake was deteriorated ...
Let me run that through the bull**** translator; just a second...

Okay, here it comes:

"A dumbass tech who's been here 3 days didn't seat the hose clamp properly, allowing an air leak that caused the truck to run lean."

Hose clamp deteriorated? Seriously? Please, any of you who, like me, have been working on cars for a lot of decades: ever heard of a deteriorated hose clamp? How about on a sub 3 year old car?
 
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Old May 24, 2022 | 03:14 PM
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Nope never have and to be honest if they told me that I would have more concerns as to the material and quality of the parts they use.

No way I would expect to see a deteriorating hose in 3 years.
 
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