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Old Jun 7, 2021 | 07:14 PM
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Leaving this here. Will update in a few weeks when I get around to installing this puppy. The process looks way more involving than on my old RRS and LR4 ((because of the location of the EAS module all the way in the rear quarters of the car), but I'll figure it out.


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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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From whom did you purchase? And what was the price?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 05:22 PM
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Directly from the manufacturer, LLAMS in Australia. Came to about $370 shipped to the US (AU$462), but I am a repeat "offender", so got a nice loyalty discount from Graeme Small (get it?) - the company owner and engineer who first came up with this height controller some 10 years ago for my 2006 RRS and 2013 LR4 - same controller for those 2 models, unfortunately the Defender uses a completely different EAS module and architecture, requiring new hardware, harness, etc. Regular price would probably be about $100-150 more, still peanuts compared to modules such as Matzker's, which ultimately does the same thing and costs 4 times as much, and far more elegant than suspensions rods. Graeme will email you all the details - including install instructions - if interested: kits@llams.com.au
 

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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 10:09 PM
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Does that have a self leveling mode, for instance when car camping on a slope? There’s another product that has been on the market that does this for previous LR models. Was watching to see if they offer an update for the Defender.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:02 PM
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No self leveling mode. I know which device you are talking about, very sleek (although I can't think of its name right now.) If it's like the development cycle for the older vehicles, it may take years before they introduce one compatible with the Defender's architecture - which is not that new actually, since the Discovery already uses a nearly identical EAS module. I like the simplicity of the LLAMS though, great support from the manufacturer and it's available now. I don't sleep in or over my car, so self leveling is not important to me.

PS: You must be referring to the X Lifter.
 

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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:15 PM
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Looks awesome, anyone know how much lower this kit lets you go below access height? only need about an inch for my scenario.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:33 PM
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The LLAMS is pre-calibrated to lower the vehicle by 20 mm - below whatever mode the stock suspensions are in - with the rotary switch in the LOW position, but that default can be changed to - 35 mm during installation. The other default modes of the rotary switch are OFF (no changes), MED (+ 30 mm) and HIGH (+ 60 mm.)
 
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:49 PM
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that is seriously cool, far better solution than the lift rods. I'm eagerly awaiting your install pics! and also my defender... it's about a month away now.
 
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Umberto....always a trailblazer and makin us jelly!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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that is seriously cool, far better solution than the lift rods. I'm eagerly awaiting your install pics! and also my defender... it's about a month away now.
Iceman153 & umbertob et. al.:

I am beginning to think about replacing my original oem 18" goodyear wrangler AT adventure tires with a different, more robust 18" tire, and am trying to understand lift options, viability and real-life impact. I have never lifted a vehicle before -- neither my Evoque nor my LR4, for instance.

I think I understand that the lift rod works by turning the linear height signaling potentiometer shaft in a manner to tell the airbag computer that the vehicle is at the standard, lowered or off-road height, when it actually is higher than that -- is that correct?

The LLAMS approach seems to achieve the same, but not mechanically. Instead it modifies the signal from the potentiometer electronically, before it reaches the computer. Is this correct?

In real-world use, which approach do you prefer and why?

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