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Anyone who picked up recently, do you guys have the clearsight mirror? Mine has got 3 buttons below the mirror and clicking on them simply throws a orange blinking light and nothing more happens.
When I ordered my 130 the clearsight could only be ordered on the X, I assume it's the same on other models. You'd see a camera hole on the rear roof antenna if you don't trust the mirror buttons. The orange lights I assume is the garage door opener.
Does this recall appear in Topix for your VIN?
my build date is 28th September, and its currently in a ship doing the long journey to New Zealand. When I run my VIN in Topix I can see only the USB-C Shortage under outstanding campaigns.
My dealer promised me I'll be driving the car by 15th or December (which is one week after the ETA of the ship).
Originally Posted by DrPizz
UPDATE(11/9): I spoke with every dealer in my state, and this software recall is indeed affecting all incoming Defenders (ported or delivered to dealer vehicles). If you're waiting on a vehicle, this is adding to your delay. From the sound of it, there are many technical assistance (TA) cases open across dealerships to get this resolved, since it is preventing dealers from even selling a Defender to a customer (or should prevent, in my case) as there are major features not working at all. My vehicle is currently "unprogrammable at this time." I'm hoping that with the ever readjusting car markets and loan interest in the rise, they get this resolved. Dealers might soon miss out on sweet sweet MSRP mark-ups if they don't hurry in resolution to time this market
To echo this, when was your vehicle built, @DrPizz ? I would have thought vehicles rolling off the line would be up to date but it's not clear when the problem was identified.
Darn, might be time to come to terms with this being another Land Rover in terms of (electronic, at least) reliability.
Originally Posted by dreamer
Does this recall appear in Topix for your VIN?
Mine did not appear in Topix for any recalls. Interesting you mention this, because I'm also missing USBs.
Originally Posted by EasternShoreDefender
To echo this, when was your vehicle built, @DrPizz ? I would have thought vehicles rolling off the line would be up to date but it's not clear when the problem was identified.
You all will be very pleased with the updated situation - Land Rover took all cloud services offline yesterday (hence why mine couldn't be fixed), so no dealers nationwide could program any Defender models. This afternoon LR released a debugged software program which was successful on all of my dealer's new Defender inventory. Although mine was tricky (as it had to be guinea pig deprogrammed and reloaded),, I've now taken official delivery of my Defender. To be honest, LR fixed this much quicker than expected. Maybe since it bricked all Defender stock nationwide for several days, this sped things up
I drove ~200 miles from the dealer to home this evening, and I can confirm that all cameras, remote app, clearsight mirror, parking sensors, and adaptive cruise are working fine. After a stressful and uncertain 5 days, I'm very happy to have the car back in my hands and working like it should
Mine did not appear in Topix for any recalls. Interesting you mention this, because I'm also missing USBs.
You all will be very pleased with the updated situation - Land Rover took all cloud services offline yesterday (hence why mine couldn't be fixed), so no dealers nationwide could program any Defender models. This afternoon LR released a debugged software program which was successful on all of my dealer's new Defender inventory. Although mine was tricky (as it had to be guinea pig deprogrammed and reloaded),, I've now taken official delivery of my Defender. To be honest, LR fixed this much quicker than expected. Maybe since it bricked all Defender stock nationwide for several days, this sped things up
I drove ~200 miles from the dealer to home this evening, and I can confirm that all cameras, remote app, clearsight mirror, parking sensors, and adaptive cruise are working fine. After a stressful and uncertain 5 days, I'm very happy to have the car back in my hands and working like it should
Glad it worked out for you.
On 11/8 I finally got a notice in my Pivi which I hoped was the 3.3 download. I clicked on the notice and I got a strange message about a failed download. So probably it was LR stopping all the downloads. Now that it is fixed, hopefully I will get the latest update soon.
On 11/8 I finally got a notice in my Pivi which I hoped was the 3.3 download. I clicked on the notice and I got a strange message about a failed download. So probably it was LR stopping all the downloads. Now that it is fixed, hopefully I will get the latest update soon.
Yep, I would assume that is correct, since they just put it back online for Defender updates on 11/9. It was locked out all day on 11/8.
It looks great, Congrats @DrPizz I'm sure it was worth the wait
Originally Posted by DrPizz
Mine did not appear in Topix for any recalls. Interesting you mention this, because I'm also missing USBs.
You all will be very pleased with the updated situation - Land Rover took all cloud services offline yesterday (hence why mine couldn't be fixed), so no dealers nationwide could program any Defender models. This afternoon LR released a debugged software program which was successful on all of my dealer's new Defender inventory. Although mine was tricky (as it had to be guinea pig deprogrammed and reloaded),, I've now taken official delivery of my Defender. To be honest, LR fixed this much quicker than expected. Maybe since it bricked all Defender stock nationwide for several days, this sped things up
I drove ~200 miles from the dealer to home this evening, and I can confirm that all cameras, remote app, clearsight mirror, parking sensors, and adaptive cruise are working fine. After a stressful and uncertain 5 days, I'm very happy to have the car back in my hands and working like it should
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The squeeze on chip supplies will take “years” to resolve, Jaguar Land Rover CEO Thierry Bolloré has warned, even as many manufacturers, including JLR, report supply is gradually returning.
JLR has suffered more than most from the shortage of the electronic controllers and has spent much of the crisis working to forge direct links with the chip suppliers, rather than keep the responsibility with the tier one supply into whose part the chip is embedded.
“We should not forget that the supply of chips is really a crisis in our sector,” Bolloré told investors and analysts on a third-quarter earnings call, adding that he had discussed the issue with other industry CEOs. “We can see improvements but it’s going to be not months but years before we come back to a situation [that] is much more normal.”
JLR’s problem is more acute in that it’s a smaller customer for chip suppliers compared with the bigger automotive groups, giving it less leverage. In September, one supplier even broke their agreement with the company, leaving it short. “That did dramatically impact September production,” chief financial officer Adrian Mardell said on the call, cutting the company’s sales predictions.
JLR has since re-signed the supplier but in a pie chart showing the sources of the £430 million inflationary increases in the six months to the end of September, around a third were attributed to the rising cost of semiconductors, just below that of soaring commodity prices and above increasing energy bills.
Automotive accounted for around 9% of the semiconductor industry in 2021, according to analyst company Gartner, worth around $51.5 billion (£45.2bn). However, it forecasts that will rise to $117bn (£103bn) by 2030, with electric vehicles, hybrids and advanced driving systems accounting for much of the increase. Gartner estimates the average cost of all the various chips needed will rise from around $500 (£440) per car to $1200 (£1055) by 2030.
Not all chips are super-sophisticated, but that doesn’t matter if you’re short of them. It still throws out your production plans. So much so that global production volumes are off about four million this year through chip shortages alone, according to AutoForecast Solutions. The situation is improving and will get better still if China does what’s been hinted at and eases its tight Covid restrictions.
But many are still suffering. “Ford and Stellantis, in particular, are still showing production hiccups that continue to limit the output of many vehicles, with high-end models highlighting the issue as a financial problem,” Sam Fiorani, vice-president of global vehicle forecasting at AutoForecast Solutions.
Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares says the company is working to improve the situation. “We have a limited number of suppliers who are troublemakers - let’s say two or three – and we're trying to push those suppliers to improve,” he told journalists at the recent Paris motor show. “By the end of 2023, the problem will be over. That’s what we estimate.”
Helping the situation are reports that supply is easing elsewhere as inventories build. “Our view is that there has been an increasing number of cancellations from white goods/smartphones, increasing allocation to automotive companies,” Philippe Houchois, automotive analyst at banking firm Jefferies said. “We think the shortage will finish earlier than the predictions of mid next year – more like mid quarter one or early quarter two”.
The tier one suppliers are making sure they don’t get into difficulties by building up supplies of semiconductors. For example, Aptiv, a supplier of electronics such as ADAS systems and central vehicle controllers, has “increased inventory of certain key components to help mitigate the impact of supply chain constraints”, chief financial officer Joe Massaro said on the company’s recent third-quarter earnings call. “Semiconductors are obviously a big part of that,” Massaro added.
The supply was related to “heavy launch activity” of new models in the first half of next year. “We're doing what we can to protect our customers and, quite frankly, protect ourselves from a supply chain standpoint,” CEO Kevin Clark said.
JLR, meanwhile, is looking into the future by signing an agreement with Wolfspeed to secure supply for more advanced silicon carbide semiconductor technology to be used in EV inverters for “next-generation Range Rover, Discovery, Defender and Jaguar collections”, although those aren’t expected until around 2025.
The company’s immediate priority remains “chips, chips and chips,” Mardell said on the JLR call. “It’s hard work for us. We were behind the clock. It’s a bit like turning up at buffet two weeks late: some of the stuff left ain’t what you want. But we’re breaking through this.”
Demand for used cars is dropping quickly. I think this will lower demand for new as many folks were getting new cars because it was cheap to upgrade. Then add in higher rates for those financing.
In short, the market is getting ready to correct these issues.
Anyone who picked up recently, do you guys have the clearsight mirror? Mine has got 3 buttons below the mirror and clicking on them simply throws a orange blinking light and nothing more happens.
Yes, I have it on mine. Are you talking about the 3 buttons on the left side or right side?
The left side is the HomeLink garage controls, the right side are the Clearsight adjustments.