No Lift tire size guide (work in progress)
#312
Has anyone run Falken Wildpeaks on a stock 20" rim? I'm still looking at options for a more off-road oriented tire for my Badlands trip. They measure out about the same size spec-wise (actually, the Wildpeak is 1/10 of an inch larger diameter comparing 275/55R20's), but the Wildpeak are 6 pounds lighter than the KO2's (still 9 pounds heavier than the stock Goodyear Wranglers). The Wildpeaks are reported to be a bit smoother and quieter on-road, and I thought the slightly reduced weight would help with handling since some feel the KO2's make the Defender feel a bit sluggish. Ratings are pretty good for both tires. I've driven a pickup with KO2's and loved them, but I'm open to options.
Ultimately, I just don't feel very confident going off-road with the Wranglers if it's at all muddy or more challenging than a rough gravel road, so I keep trying to find a good compromise that will also serve me well in snow (both are severe snow service rated).
Ultimately, I just don't feel very confident going off-road with the Wranglers if it's at all muddy or more challenging than a rough gravel road, so I keep trying to find a good compromise that will also serve me well in snow (both are severe snow service rated).
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Eitan (05-12-2022)
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#314
@NoGaBiker Amazing and helpful write up! Thanks for taking the time! Like you, I’d rather not run spacers and am not afraid to grind as far as needed. I’ve got a good hook up on a set of 5 OEM steelies with TPMS and hub covers for a really fair price. Would like to have them powder coated black, like yours, and mount BFG K02 255/70/18’s. According to many, I would still need at least a bit of a spacer 22-25mm front/rear to make this work. Would love to have this “extra set” of wheels/tires to easily switch out for trips and seasonally (like I used to do with my LR4) with my factory tires and 20’s.
#315
Coupla updates:
1) I switched back to my street 20" wheels and OEM Goodyears yesterday. While they were off I measured both of the tires (Wrangler and Cooper) unloaded, side-by-side, using a level from the taller Cooper. The height (diameter) difference was a full 0.5", which explains why the front Coopers rub with 30mm spacers while the same-nominal-size front GYs didn't.
2) Over the almost 3 weeks I had them on the truck I had grown used to the "noise" generated by the 18" Cooper RTs, to where I didn't think about it. But with the GYs back on I can now hear (or not hear, I guess) a big difference. So I would conclude that the RTs are perfectly fine, even for a cross-country trip, given their much greater off-road capability, but there is enough difference that unless I was planning to offroad in places where the tires' extra capability was going to be utilized and needed, I would make that drive with the Wranglers instead. The black steelies and knobby tires look the business, but I'd rather have the on-road quietness of the GYs (claimed ATs but I think they're just LT street tires, to be honest) for most of my driving.
1) I switched back to my street 20" wheels and OEM Goodyears yesterday. While they were off I measured both of the tires (Wrangler and Cooper) unloaded, side-by-side, using a level from the taller Cooper. The height (diameter) difference was a full 0.5", which explains why the front Coopers rub with 30mm spacers while the same-nominal-size front GYs didn't.
2) Over the almost 3 weeks I had them on the truck I had grown used to the "noise" generated by the 18" Cooper RTs, to where I didn't think about it. But with the GYs back on I can now hear (or not hear, I guess) a big difference. So I would conclude that the RTs are perfectly fine, even for a cross-country trip, given their much greater off-road capability, but there is enough difference that unless I was planning to offroad in places where the tires' extra capability was going to be utilized and needed, I would make that drive with the Wranglers instead. The black steelies and knobby tires look the business, but I'd rather have the on-road quietness of the GYs (claimed ATs but I think they're just LT street tires, to be honest) for most of my driving.
#316
A buddy picked up a set of the GY OEM 'offroad' tires for his LR4 for cheap and finally got them off pavement. I warned him... They are crap!!! He blew 2 tires offroading on one trip. I blew 2 in less than 2k miles when I first got my truck. Change them if you want to do any serious offroading.
My General Grabber X3s are awesome, though they are a bit noisier. I had them pinched pretty good in Steel pass in Death Valley and they came out unscathed.
My General Grabber X3s are awesome, though they are a bit noisier. I had them pinched pretty good in Steel pass in Death Valley and they came out unscathed.
Last edited by spikemd; 04-25-2022 at 11:18 AM.
#317
@NoGaBiker - Seriously thinking the same. I'll save them when I know I'm going off road. Other than that, I'm going back to original spec just to tool around the majority of the time.
#318
A buddy picked up a set of the GY OEM 'offroad' tires for his LR4 for cheap and finally got them off pavement. I warned him... They are crap!!! He blew 2 tires offroading on one trip. I blew 2 in less than 2k miles when I first got my truck. Change them if you want to do any serious offroading.
My General Grabber X3s are awesome, though they are a bit noisier. I had them pinched pretty good in Steel pass in Death Valley and they came out unscathed.
My General Grabber X3s are awesome, though they are a bit noisier. I had them pinched pretty good in Steel pass in Death Valley and they came out unscathed.