No Lift tire size guide (work in progress)
#561
I posted link in my reply above... put in the size 255/60/20 and it comes up with May...
at the risk of ranting a bit:
/rant on
tire sizes are lil like dress sizes: you may be a size 6 in one brand while a size 4 in another
I am a little concerned that people aren't giving important specs when they state fit/no fit conditions.
there is quite a bit of variance in tread width and section width tire model to model, brand to brand.
OE tires also tend to have less tread depth than the non OE version (noise, rolling resistance, weight).
if one is rubbing on suspension, section width or wheel offset are likely to blame.
if one is rubbing wheel liner only when wheel is turned take a close look at tread width.
AT tires tend to be more square shouldered than more on-road focused.
Even the load-rating / construction (higher ply LT offerings) can make a difference in fit.
to wit: even though 275/45/22 is a stock offering on a V8 L663 an even a mid-agressive Conti Terrain Contact in 275/55/20 (same height and stated width) could rub when fronts are turned since the tires have much wider tread by at least an inch compared to the stock tire (the 'corners' of the tire are bigger) but fit very well on my D90 but not a friend's D110.
/rant off
😁
at the risk of ranting a bit:
/rant on
tire sizes are lil like dress sizes: you may be a size 6 in one brand while a size 4 in another
I am a little concerned that people aren't giving important specs when they state fit/no fit conditions.
there is quite a bit of variance in tread width and section width tire model to model, brand to brand.
OE tires also tend to have less tread depth than the non OE version (noise, rolling resistance, weight).
if one is rubbing on suspension, section width or wheel offset are likely to blame.
if one is rubbing wheel liner only when wheel is turned take a close look at tread width.
AT tires tend to be more square shouldered than more on-road focused.
Even the load-rating / construction (higher ply LT offerings) can make a difference in fit.
to wit: even though 275/45/22 is a stock offering on a V8 L663 an even a mid-agressive Conti Terrain Contact in 275/55/20 (same height and stated width) could rub when fronts are turned since the tires have much wider tread by at least an inch compared to the stock tire (the 'corners' of the tire are bigger) but fit very well on my D90 but not a friend's D110.
/rant off
😁
Last edited by BraveSirRobin; 03-08-2024 at 07:14 PM.
#563
I posted link in my reply above... put in the size 255/60/20 and it comes up with May...
at the risk of ranting a bit:
/rant on
tire sizes are lil like dress sizes: you may be a size 6 in one brand while a size 4 in another
I am a little concerned that people aren't giving important specs when they state fit/no fit conditions.
there is quite a bit of variance in tread width and section width tire model to model, brand to brand.
OE tires also tend to have less tread depth than the non OE version (noise, rolling resistance, weight).
if one is rubbing on suspension, section width or wheel offset are likely to blame.
if one is rubbing wheel liner only when wheel is turned take a close look at tread width.
AT tires tend to be more square shouldered than more on-road focused.
Even the load-rating / construction (higher ply LT offerings) can make a difference in fit.
to wit: even though 275/45/22 is a stock offering on a V8 L663 an even a mid-agressive Conti Terrain Contact in 275/55/20 (same height and stated width) could rub when fronts are turned since the tires have much wider tread by at least an inch compared to the stock tire (the 'corners' of the tire are bigger).
/rant off
😁
at the risk of ranting a bit:
/rant on
tire sizes are lil like dress sizes: you may be a size 6 in one brand while a size 4 in another
I am a little concerned that people aren't giving important specs when they state fit/no fit conditions.
there is quite a bit of variance in tread width and section width tire model to model, brand to brand.
OE tires also tend to have less tread depth than the non OE version (noise, rolling resistance, weight).
if one is rubbing on suspension, section width or wheel offset are likely to blame.
if one is rubbing wheel liner only when wheel is turned take a close look at tread width.
AT tires tend to be more square shouldered than more on-road focused.
Even the load-rating / construction (higher ply LT offerings) can make a difference in fit.
to wit: even though 275/45/22 is a stock offering on a V8 L663 an even a mid-agressive Conti Terrain Contact in 275/55/20 (same height and stated width) could rub when fronts are turned since the tires have much wider tread by at least an inch compared to the stock tire (the 'corners' of the tire are bigger).
/rant off
😁
#564
Question about wheels!
This is an excellent thread on tires.
My question relates to wheels and I'm very sorry if this is already covered somewhere and I'm asking again as a newbie to the forum.
I was thinking of buying a second set of rims to put AT tires on and also keep the OEM rims and tires. Living in Canada where many people put winter tires on their vehicles there is a multitude of OEM rims (as well as non-OEM) available used, or so I thought! Then I happenes to speak to the "tire guru" at the LR Dealer and mentioned my plan. He informed me that I absolutely cannot use rims from other LR vehicles. He said the RR, RR Sport, Discovery and even the LR4s don't weigh as much as the Defender and therefore rims from those vehicles should not be used on the Defender. This significantly reduces availability on the used marked but I have a feeling it's all BS! Any information on this is much appreciated.
My question relates to wheels and I'm very sorry if this is already covered somewhere and I'm asking again as a newbie to the forum.
I was thinking of buying a second set of rims to put AT tires on and also keep the OEM rims and tires. Living in Canada where many people put winter tires on their vehicles there is a multitude of OEM rims (as well as non-OEM) available used, or so I thought! Then I happenes to speak to the "tire guru" at the LR Dealer and mentioned my plan. He informed me that I absolutely cannot use rims from other LR vehicles. He said the RR, RR Sport, Discovery and even the LR4s don't weigh as much as the Defender and therefore rims from those vehicles should not be used on the Defender. This significantly reduces availability on the used marked but I have a feeling it's all BS! Any information on this is much appreciated.
#565
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#567
Just be aware that when littlehandgun claims a 275/70 fits just fine with 1.5” rods, what he really means is “The exact tires I have fit my exact Defender with 1.5” rods.”
The 275/70 tires I bought didn’t come close to fitting without rubbing with the slightest turn of the tire, nowhere near full lock, with and without 1.5” rods, with and without 30mm spacers. I bought them based on earlier statements in here that “275/70-18s fit just fine with rods” and that was an expensive lesson because once the 5 tires were mounted, they were mine.
The 275/70 tires I bought didn’t come close to fitting without rubbing with the slightest turn of the tire, nowhere near full lock, with and without 1.5” rods, with and without 30mm spacers. I bought them based on earlier statements in here that “275/70-18s fit just fine with rods” and that was an expensive lesson because once the 5 tires were mounted, they were mine.
#568
265/60/20 K02's fitted. No rubbing at all. I had 30mm on the standard size tires 255/60/20 which had very slight rubbing in access mode. Unfortunately with the 30 mm spacers the 265/60/20 K02's were rubbing the front wheel liner quite significantly in access mode and normal mode.
Last edited by Lints; 03-06-2024 at 09:03 AM.
#569
This post and thread has been very helpful. The OEM Wranglers just don’t cut it in Colorado winters and replacements in stock size are a joke.
Went with 275/55r20 as it’s only 0.1 inch different from stock. I’ve always been a Nokian fan and considered Hakkas but Nokian now has a winter rated AT - Nokian Outpost nAT. It’s only been a day, already notice a difference driving in the slush. Tires are quiet and give the vehicle a bit more aggressive look.
Went with 275/55r20 as it’s only 0.1 inch different from stock. I’ve always been a Nokian fan and considered Hakkas but Nokian now has a winter rated AT - Nokian Outpost nAT. It’s only been a day, already notice a difference driving in the slush. Tires are quiet and give the vehicle a bit more aggressive look.
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