No love for auto start/stop
I know I am in the minority, but the last thing I want is iOS on my dashboard. The only time I use CarPlay is when I'm in a rental car that doesn't have a native navigation system.
Auto-stop is evil. It is dangerous and uber-annoying. It is the worst possible way to save <1% in fuel economy (and I own two electric cars for environmental reasons). And for all the button pushing lovers, I'd tell you the car driving experience should be "frictionless". Just get in your car and drive -- no key unlock, no start button, no turning off auto-stop, etc. Tesla has been doing this for almost ten years. Once you get used to that then going back to any other experience is like going from an iPhone to a blackberry -- yeah, I know some people out there will be "but I loved my blackberry... and my fax machine".
When I bought my 110 I had to make this little tiny circuit to disable auto-stop. Now I live in bliss.
https://landroverforums.com/forum/20...21/#post871804
When I bought my 110 I had to make this little tiny circuit to disable auto-stop. Now I live in bliss.
https://landroverforums.com/forum/20...21/#post871804
Add me to that camp. I never use Stop/Start, it’s my second action after pushing the Engine Start button. Followed by disabling ‘Emergency Braking’ and ‘Emergency Lane Keeping’. Besides being annoying, seems to me they can cause more harm than they avoid. Rarely use cruise control, so Adaptive CC to me is useless. I enjoy the act of driving, I don’t want a vehicle driving me. FSD Tesla? Couldn’t give me a free one.
My buddy who's a deputy sheriff asked about mileage and I said "17 if I don't try for less , 21 when WIC" (wife in car)...
Last edited by Ratledge; May 17, 2025 at 06:31 PM.
And for all the button pushing lovers, I'd tell you the car driving experience should be "frictionless". Just get in your car and drive -- no key unlock, no start button, no turning off auto-stop, etc.
Proclaimed with all the moral conviction of a declaration of a Euclidean Postulate.
I have an idea. How about we offer dozens... nay.. hundreds... nay... countless different options to the consumer and let them decide what they prefer since, you know, we all have different ideas about what "the car driving experience should be".
Because my opinion of what "the car driving experience should be" is certainly a lot different than yours.
As for Auto Start/Stop... my wife leaves it on because she doesn't know what it is. I turn it off when it annoys me which isn't often but I'm not the primary driver so the fact that it stays on is probably a good thing - kind of like a toilet seat that always gets put back down.
What I truly despise was the effort a few years ago to make it undefeatable by the consumer. Meaning that the government had planned on making it mandatory and something you COULDN'T disable. Thank God thats about to die the death it deserves.
Last edited by H1Tad; May 17, 2025 at 08:25 AM.
It's a technology that's been around for 50 years so it's been tested enough and proven for better fuel economy. On all the cars I've had it on I've rarely turned it off. I just feel if you want to remove everything that annoys you because of your driving habits you end up creating more issues than you might solve. For performance driving I'll take my GT3 to the track. The new EPA chief is another Trump appointment selected to gut a department. I believe his intentions are not clearly aimed at improving the environment.
Last edited by Pjazz; May 17, 2025 at 09:37 AM.
Don't you think you should let people shut it off once and if they want better fuel economy they'll turn it back on? Who does that hurt? If that behavior doesn't meet the needs of everyone who owns one then I don't know what does.
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