OEM Ladder Broken after 2.5 years
#61
Unless there is a huge market for replacement hinges (maybe if Gavin's complaint with the NHTSA is effective, LRNA :-p ), I'd think the easiest way to solve this is with a couple of laser cut pieces and a welder. For a one-off, a competent fab shop should be able to bang something out that doesn't look too rustic in a couple of hours (and is much stronger than cast aluminum). I can imagine the cost not being more than the cost of a replacement aftermarket ladder, if that.
Or maybe pique Simon's interest (Powerful UK) :-))
Or maybe pique Simon's interest (Powerful UK) :-))
#62
#64
Don't hurt yourself!
I spoke to Simon (Powerful). And I looked at my aftermarket ladder more closely. My hinges aren't even cast aluminum - they're plastic! So we are looking into it. I have one bad knee due to skiing and am not going to risk it or the other on a plastic hinge.
If neither Simon nor I can come up with anything worth producing, I will def be fabricating something (steel, welded). If I can manage to do it without too much time expenditure, maybe I'll make a couple of sets. At the very least, I'll document what I've done and post it here so that you can look for a fabricator. It might take some time, though. Months. Not days. Sorry.
I spoke to Simon (Powerful). And I looked at my aftermarket ladder more closely. My hinges aren't even cast aluminum - they're plastic! So we are looking into it. I have one bad knee due to skiing and am not going to risk it or the other on a plastic hinge.
If neither Simon nor I can come up with anything worth producing, I will def be fabricating something (steel, welded). If I can manage to do it without too much time expenditure, maybe I'll make a couple of sets. At the very least, I'll document what I've done and post it here so that you can look for a fabricator. It might take some time, though. Months. Not days. Sorry.
#65
Seriously though, given the fact that these hinges are weak, I am of the opinion that Land Rover needs to recall all of the ones they sold and it is up to LR to come up with a design that will not break when used for its intended purpose. If the intended purpose is just looks, then it should warn its customers not to use it. Plain and simple, bad product and a safety risk if used.
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GavinC (04-28-2024)
#66
Don't hurt yourself!
I spoke to Simon (Powerful). And I looked at my aftermarket ladder more closely. My hinges aren't even cast aluminum - they're plastic! So we are looking into it. I have one bad knee due to skiing and am not going to risk it or the other on a plastic hinge.
If neither Simon nor I can come up with anything worth producing, I will def be fabricating something (steel, welded). If I can manage to do it without too much time expenditure, maybe I'll make a couple of sets. At the very least, I'll document what I've done and post it here so that you can look for a fabricator. It might take some time, though. Months. Not days. Sorry.
I spoke to Simon (Powerful). And I looked at my aftermarket ladder more closely. My hinges aren't even cast aluminum - they're plastic! So we are looking into it. I have one bad knee due to skiing and am not going to risk it or the other on a plastic hinge.
If neither Simon nor I can come up with anything worth producing, I will def be fabricating something (steel, welded). If I can manage to do it without too much time expenditure, maybe I'll make a couple of sets. At the very least, I'll document what I've done and post it here so that you can look for a fabricator. It might take some time, though. Months. Not days. Sorry.
I did a search on the stamped letters/numbers on the hinge and found out that it is a zinc alloy in the hinges. Not Aluminum as I initially assumed.
Plastic hinges will for sure fail but perhaps they will distort before fracture occurs.
Anyway, I've tried zip ties, and JB weld. Gorilla glue is next just to have it looking right. I just use the top three rungs (till I forget one day)
#67
Seriously though, given the fact that these hinges are weak, I am of the opinion that Land Rover needs to recall all of the ones they sold and it is up to LR to come up with a design that will not break when used for its intended purpose. If the intended purpose is just looks, then it should warn its customers not to use it. Plain and simple, bad product and a safety risk if used.
#68
if you send me your broken piece i can fix it for you and it will be stronger than the original. i had tried to offer help to another poster here and they became unhinged and sent me messages then acted like i had somehow done something offensive when i just honestly told them i was not interested in working with them. i work with people who understand what it is they are asking to be done. and theyre always happy when they get their piece after waiting, sometimes months. process drives the timeline not personalities.
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WAFOX (04-28-2024)
#69
if you send me your broken piece i can fix it for you and it will be stronger than the original. i had tried to offer help to another poster here and they became unhinged and sent me messages then acted like i had somehow done something offensive when i just honestly told them i was not interested in working with them. i work with people who understand what it is they are asking to be done. and theyre always happy when they get their piece after waiting, sometimes months. process drives the timeline not personalities.
Cheers
#70
@GavinC you are right stating it is not a priority. Sadly, it will become a priority when someone gets hurt badly and sues Land Rover, or enough people file complaints with the NHTSA. For what they cost, it should be a solid ladder and work as intended.